What do you think should be addressed in the next iteration of the Grenadier?

[Tanters]

Having taken possession of my Grenny a couple of gays ago, ….

Hard to judge this timewise - we’ll need to know how long you hang on to your gays for exactly ……

 

[Arkaig]

Hard to judge this timewise - we’ll need to know how long you hang on to your gays for exactly ……

Aha! The joys of one-finger typing - apols for the typo!

 

[2wheelfish]

As has been mentioned:
- more lighter colors
- better soft touch interior materials
- more analog gauges (speedo/tach)
- improved interior storage.

Maybe a new one?
- a real (selectable) neutral on the transfer case for towing flexibility.

 

[Tanters]

Aha! The joys of one-finger typing - apols for the typo!

Only having the craic with you. I only get spelling correct some of the time myself

 

[DCPU]

I see what look you're going for there:

 

[frankkk]

I see what look you're going for there:
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a bit over the top..

oh, sorry, just deleted that, colour choice is maybe too obvious..from the avatar..

 

[ChasingOurTrunks]

Not to hijack the thread but has anybody had any experience with this type of thing?

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[Fidei Defensor]

I agree on:
- Interior: add a handle on the A-pillar on the driver's side, similar to the one on the passenger side. This handle should be optional in the configuration.
also

- not sure where the rear backup camera is located, but having the option to use that or a higher-mounted one to feed an electronic rear view screen so as to see past the spare tire and the ladder. In some cars I have driven the rear view display is behind the optical (mirror) rear view mirror and can be toggled between optical mirror or the display mirror

I am 100% behind a "real" eledtronic camera based rear view mirror in place of the reflective glass one. But I would also like to see a camera as a trailer hitch guide. I find this awesome in my brother-in-laws F250 when hooking up the boat trailer (I have seen some comments that the current camera does not work too well for this purpose (comments?).
Finally, In the space directly in front of the steering wheel, real analog speedometer and rev counter would be nice.....

 

[MileHigh]

I am 100% behind a "real" eledtronic camera based rear view mirror in place of the reflective glass one. But I would also like to see a camera as a trailer hitch guide. I find this awesome in my brother-in-laws F250 when hooking up the boat trailer (I have seen some comments that the current camera does not work too well for this purpose (comments?).
Finally, In the space directly in front of the steering wheel, real analog speedometer and rev counter would be nice.....

I can think of nothing less needed and directly in contrast to the design concept of the Grenadier, then an electric rearview mirror.

 

[DaBull]

I can think of nothing less needed and directly in contrast to the design concept of the Grenadier, then an electric rearview mirror.

Hi MileHigh, I have a 2020 Defender with the video rear mirror and at first it took a bit of time to get used to it. Having the large tire on the back of the Defender gives you a very restrictive view, just like the Grenadier will have. Once I got used to it, I loved it. Not only do I get a wider degree view than a regular mirror, it has saved me a couple times from drivers that were too close to me. I hope they add this feature to a future Grenadier as it supplements the back up camera and adds another smile to your driving experience and safety too. DaBull

 

[ChasingOurTrunks]

I can think of nothing less needed and directly in contrast to the design concept of the Grenadier, then an electric rearview mirror.

This thing will, in my use case, render the mirror complete useless most of the time because the cargo area will be full of touring gear and making the most of that beautiful payload. A camera based mirror is quite handy.

And if it breaks, it’s unlikely to be tied into any critical systems (or shouldn’t be), so I see this as a place where modern innovations have their place.

I don’t think it should be standard though - an OEM option for folks like me who would find it useful would be a bit more “clean” than my current solution, which I got off Amazon for $100. This doubles as a rear and forward facing dashcam too, and to pull videos off I just pop out the SD card. This could be very important for the commercial operators whose insurance probably will start liking this more and more as dash cams continue to be more common.

But, it should be an option for use cases, and be as simple as can be — but having an OEM cable and housing for the camera would be a nice option.

To each their own, of course! But, my intent is to illustrate that this particular bit of “tech kit” isn’t necessarily just a whizz bang feature for the sake of it - it has some real utility in some cases.

Edit - I was outside and thought I’d snap my current truck setup.

Here’s the normal view out the back - as in, none - the cap blocks everything:



Here’s the camera though - HD and full colour so I can see what’s behind me at all times. Also has a front facing dash cam and a cam for inside the cab to catch the 3,000th rendition of my family singing “Wheels on the Bus” with my toddler (and I can’t wait till tomorrow where we’ll likely go for 3001 - 3015!

 

[MileHigh]

Hi MileHigh, I have a 2020 Defender with the video rear mirror and at first it took a bit of time to get used to it. Having the large tire on the back of the Defender gives you a very restrictive view, just like the Grenadier will have. Once I got used to it, I loved it. Not only do I get a wider degree view than a regular mirror, it has saved me a couple times from drivers that were too close to me. I hope they add this feature to a future Grenadier as it supplements the back up camera and adds another smile to your driving experience and safety too. DaBull

Damn you and your logic and reason!!!

 

[Fidei Defensor]

A Wagon built on the Ute chassis, giving a longer load space (not looking at third row seats: just a bigger load space behind the rear seats!

 

[bemax]

A Wagon built on the Ute chassis, giving a longer load space (not looking at third row seats: just a bigger load space behind the rear seats!

Only 10-20 cm more load length would be great

 

[Hannes01]

Only 10-20 cm more load length would be great

I've heard that before

 

[FrankieJ]

A Wagon built on the Ute chassis, giving a longer load space (not looking at third row seats: just a bigger load space behind the rear seats!

That’s exactly what I am waiting/hoping for. Coming from a large wagon like the Nissan Patrol, the boot is just a little bit too short.

 

[Regalz]

That’s exactly what I am waiting/hoping for. Coming from a large wagon like the Nissan Patrol, the boot is just a little bit too short.

I’m sure some of this has been covers before but:

1) flatten the folded rear seats
2) heads-up display
3) marginally better interior plastics, at least in line with Jeep Rubicon trim
4) abandon the BMW shifter

 

[IGL]

I’m quite fine with most of the interior (except BMW shifter, missing speedometer in front of driver e.g.) and exterior (except plastic front bumpers e.g.), it almost meets all the needs of an 4x4. But it’s too pricy IMO.

 

[Paco Garcia]

I have read the entire thread and apart from seeing interesting proposals, I have also laughed at the sarcastic proposals that are raised, but there is one thing that nobody has raised and I do not quite understand why Ineos has not done it, and that is to put a damper steering with help to center the steering wheel, something of this type

 

[DaBull]

I have read the entire thread and apart from seeing interesting proposals, I have also laughed at the sarcastic proposals that are raised, but there is one thing that nobody has raised and I do not quite understand why Ineos has not done it, and that is to put a damper steering with help to center the steering wheel, something of this type


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Hi Paco, that looks like a great idea. Be interested to seeing someone do it and post what product and installation instructions if any. DaBull