3rd party Videos Rohny Dahl video incoming

[TheDocAUS]

Mainly a tour of the full canopy. Ronny is now on a 2 week desert trip testing the QM.

View: https://youtu.be/t8tIDA708Zo

 

[TheDocAUS]

Ronny is in the QM. He says around 15:20 it is "F[expletive] its awesome". He has already down 100's of kilometers on rough roads by that time. The video is a bit choppy as it is streamed from remote Western Australia.

They have already visited Carnegie Station which the sign says is 353 km away. They are heading towards Warburton (which is 846km ahead) and Giles (1077km ahead). I have been to Warburton and Giles and they are in the middle of nowhere. I traveled the Great Central Road but they are on the Gunbarrel Highway.

Because one of the Len Beadell graders is at Giles I suspect they will stop there. Len Beadell was in charge of the Gunbarrel Road Construction Party that built the Gunbarrel Highway, plus many other remote roads like the Connie Sue Highjway.

View: https://youtu.be/6R37IVpnaPM

 

[Rayzar]

Rohny made a big call and said he's going to keep the QM for 5 years so will be great to see how his grenadier goes as the miles stack up. I think he'll call out any failures of that car. If it breaks track side we will see it on his channel.

 

[bigleonski]

Ronny is in the QM. He says around 15:20 it is "F[expletive] its awesome". He has already down 100's of kilometers on rough roads by the. The video is a bit choppy as it is streamed from remote Western Australia.

They have already visited Carnegie Station which the sign says is 353 km away. They are heading towards Warburton (which is 846km ahead) and Giles (1077km ahead). I have been to Warburton and Giles and they are in the middle of nowhere. I traveled the Great Central Road but they are on the Gunbarrel Highway.

Because one of the Len Beadell graders is at Giles I suspect they will stop there. Len Beadell was in charge of the Gunbarrel Road Construction Party that built the Gunbarrel Highway, plus many other remote roads like the Connie Sue Highjway.

View: https://youtu.be/6R37IVpnaPM

The Warburton to Warakurna (Giles) section is the “Abandoned” section of the Gunbarrel Highway, where the permit requires (or did 10 years ago) a sat phone and min 3 vehicles, and is a magic bit of track. We had what we call two “magic days” where we didn’t see another vehicle from sun up to sundown on that stretch. Perfect remote touring. I remember dinner under some desert oaks with a dark and stormy (rum and ginger beer) damper followed by lamb shanks and roast vegetables in the camp oven as one of our best overnight stops ever. Need to get out there again soon. Perhaps the Madigan Line next year if I can time it right.

 

[TheDocAUS]

The Warburton to Warakurna (Giles) section is the “Abandoned” section of the Gunbarrel Highway, where the permit requires (or did 10 years ago) a sat phone and min 3 vehicles, and is a magic bit of track. We had what we call two “magic days” where we didn’t see another vehicle from sun up to sundown on that stretch. Perfect remote touring. I remember dinner under some desert oaks with a dark and stormy (rum and ginger beer) damper followed by lamb shanks and roast vegetables in the camp oven as one of our best overnight stops ever. Need to get out there again soon. Perhaps the Madigan Line next year if I can time it right.

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That is really, really remote. My permit did not permit me to leave the road, except at Giles. I was heading back to the east, so no big deal.

Giles River Camp Ground is one of the weirdest places I camped at - complete silence at night - no traffic, no birds, no insects just complete 100% silence. I was the only one there. It was really strange, creepy actually.

 

[bigleonski]

That is really, really remote. My permit did not permit me to leave the road, except at Giles. I was heading back to the east, so no big deal. Giles River Camp Ground is one of the weirdest places I camped at - complete silence at night - no traffic, no birds, no insects just complete 100% silence. I was the only one there. It was really strange, creepy actually.

Yep, we did Lake Mackay in the same trip and that took is about three months and a dozen phone calls to finally get approval.
We stayed at the camp ground behind the shop at Giles as we wanted to go out to the weather station to watch them launch the weather balloon. These things expand to the size of a small hot air balloon and generally end up all the way across to Queensland before the come down.

On the same trip we also when down to Surveyor Generals Corner, which completed the set of all of the state border convergences for us. I read somewhere that more people have been to the South Pole than SGC.

 

[TheDocAUS]

Summary only, hints that the QM is performing really really well for the weight, especially the JMACX suspension. "This vehicle [QM] from front to back has been absolutely epic". Impressed how well the QM is carrying all the weight, even across corrugations. The biggest test for any vehicle in Australia - corrugations (aka washboards).

I think they were at Neale Junction and after the storm headed north along the Connie Sue Highway (named after Len Beadell's then young daughter) towards Warburton. She first stood up in her bassinet and they named the road then and there after their young daughter.

Heat has been above 40C, massive lighting storm with winds, including a mini tornado.

View: https://youtu.be/AiGALLWzjBU

 

[TheDocAUS]

Part 2 of the Caninng Stock Route (CSR). I must admit nothing I have seen so far, in Parts 1 or 2, would encourage me to do the CSR:

View: https://youtu.be/YDYV1pNlESU

 

[TheDocAUS]

Ronny's advice: If you are offroad lock the centre diff in your IG or QM. He had some issues when it was unlocked, they were immediately fixed by locking it. He starts talking about the QM around 18 minutes for 2 or 3 minutes.

Ronny said very little about the QM and the co-hosts were at pains to say they did not drive the QM - because they were concerned about how they would feel about their own cars in comparison (hehe). A 79 series and a Ford Ranger.

All were impressed with the QM’s suspension performance\, with JMACX fitted.

View: https://youtu.be/qA2FdlH0RdA

 

[LRNAD90]

Ronny's advice: If you are offroad lock the centre diff in your IG or QM. He had some issues when it was unlocked, they were immediately fixed by locking it. He starts talking about the QM around 18 minutes for 2 or 3 minutes.

I like watching Ronny's videos, but this is not a Grenadier specific thing. Anything with a locking center diff, you should lock when leaving pavement. Not only for improved traction, but to save wear and tear on the center diff. It is not designed to take up large differences in drive train speed front to back for extended periods. This will ultimately blow it up. Land Rover has the same 'feature'. Not new advise by any means..

 

[TheDocAUS]

I like watching Ronny's videos, but this is not a Grenadier specific thing. Anything with a locking center diff, you should lock when leaving pavement. Not only for improved traction, but to save wear and tear on the center diff. It is not designed to take up large differences in drive train speed front to back for extended periods. This will ultimately blow it up. Land Rover has the same 'feature'. Not new advise by any means..

I nearly always lock mine. But not everyone here is experienced with offroad driving, so I try not to assume.

 

[CRH]

I nearly always lock mine. But not everyone here is experienced with offroad driving, so I try not to assume.

I'm a complete novice with a proper 4x4, my previous vehicle was a Freelander 2 which I used as my smart work vehicle for visiting customers and then a few UK green lanes. Thankfully I bought underbody protection prior as it was pretty damaged when I removed to sell, but I was very limited with ground clearance. I owned the Freelander for 9 years and it still looked like new when polished up but wasn't reliable for travelling across the country, especially highlands of Scotland in the Winter. Freelander was amazing in a bad snow storm we were in on the mountains and the tyres would have been a huge help. I plan early and investigate what car i will change to when my current one is no longer of use and planned to get the UK Landcruiser, or Prado to other nations. Then Jim threw a spanner in the works and announced he was going to make a comfortable Defender, simple, reliable and easy to fix and it caught my attention. I registered interest as soon as possible and read everything possible. Ultimately, here i am, Grenadier owner but not a capable 4x4 user so I do try to read and watch as much as I can from people who seem knowledgeable rather than idiotic.
So, the little green lanes in have had chance to have a go on, although very easy, I would not have bothered to lock the centre diff, except to see if it worked, as it drove easily without any slipping wheels without locking the centre diff. I also tried the front and rear lockers but cocked up the sequence. I was using the same as for selecting off road. That was last year and I haven't had chance since I need to get out but by the sounds of it, I also need to learn a lot more.

Conclusion
@TheDocAUS thanks for realising you need to educate the inexperienced like me

 

[TheDocAUS]

It has become clear to me, some new owners are also new to 4X4.

Plenty of people here are happy to help them, and it is a reason why I try not to assume. It can sometimes sound patronising.

The complied links try to cover many topics. The truth is even experienced off roaders are still learning about the IG and QM. It is different to other brands. You even see it in Ronny Dahl videos.

 

[CRH]

It has become clear to me, some new owners are also new to 4X4.

Plenty of people here are happy to help them, and it is a reason why I try not to assume. It can sometimes sound patronising.

The complied links try to cover many topics. The truth is even experienced off roaders are still learning about the IG and QM. It is different to other brands. You even see it in Ronny Dahl videos.

I'm always happy to admit I'm the idiot 4x4er as I realise some don't like to admit/ask
Keep patronising me, I'm here to learn, and make inappropriate comments wherever possible

 

[TheDocAUS]

I'm always happy to admit I'm the idiot 4x4er as I realise some don't like to admit/ask
Keep patronising me, I'm here to learn, and make inappropriate comments wherever possible

I am here to learn also, and continue to do so.

 

[Blackwolf]

Ronny's advice: If you are offroad lock the centre diff in your IG or QM.

It's worth remembering Land-Rover's advice when the LT230 full-time 4WD transfer case replaced the earlier LT76 selectable 2/4WD box, namely to lock the LT230 centre diff whenever you would have pressed the yellow knob to select 4WD with the LT76, in other words if the terrain merited 4WD in a series Land-Rover, the centre diff should be locked. Admittedly this was partly to protect the rather fragile thrust washers used on the differential gears in the LT230 (one of the box's few weaknesses) but the advice is sound.

 

[CRH]

So, is the advice that as soon as you leave tarmac then lock centre diff or are there exceptions to that?
Also, what about snow and ice? Do you wait until the road is completely white or not at all?

 

[TheDocAUS]

So, is the advice that as soon as you leave tarmac then lock centre diff or are there exceptions to that?
Also, what about snow and ice? Do you wait until the road is completely white or not at all?

Basically once you go offroad lock the centre diff, whether that be gravel, sand, mud, snow or ice. Assuming you are going offload more than a short distance.

Dahl's specific comment was made while he was driving on a beach. He drove onto a beach without looking the centre diff, had some issues, and then he locked the center diff and the issues went away. So he said always lock the centre diff offroad, which is what I do.

 

[Michael H.]

So, is the advice that as soon as you leave tarmac then lock centre diff or are there exceptions to that?
Also, what about snow and ice? Do you wait until the road is completely white or not at all?

There are important safety reasons for locking the centre diff offroad, especially related to hills, as shown here ...

View: https://youtu.be/S_pHpY27Ydk?si=tm3Lm3O3nZNVqQLy

 

[CRH]

There are important safety reasons for locking the centre diff offroad, especially related to hills, as shown here ...

View: https://youtu.be/S_pHpY27Ydk?si=tm3Lm3O3nZNVqQLy

I've watched a few of this chaps videos before, they remind me of old Open University programs. He does explain things well though
Weirdly, prior to the discussion starting yesterday on the centre lock diff being used I had only just watched one from the Overlanding guy Pierre White chappy whilst getting tea ready for the wife's return. He was saying the same thing but it was in a general chat. I know some on here don't like him but any knowledge from people who aren't out there just for YouTube clicks due to stupidity is always helpful when you combine it all together.