Mercedes W464 G wagen

[landmannnn]

Interesting specifications for the current military spec G Wagen. The German army have just ordered 6,000 of them.

Straight 6 diesel 245hp
Solid axles all round
90 litre fuel tank
Auto transmission

A higher load rated pickup available

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[Dokatd]

Interesting specifications for the current military spec G Wagen. The German army have just ordered 6,000 of them.

Straight 6 diesel 245hp
Solid axles all round
90 litre fuel tank
Auto transmission

A higher load rated pickup available

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I'd ditch my Gren in a heartbeat for that.

 

[landmannnn]

I'd ditch my Gren in a heartbeat for that.

Yes, but seeing that it only meets a 20 year old emissions standard we will never get our hands on one.

 

[TD5-90]

I'd ditch my Gren in a heartbeat for that.

Why? The key specs are obviously the same. The only big advantage is the Euro 3 emission standard. Which you won't have in a civilian version.
And honestly: The Grenadier looks _much_ better!

 

[Krabby]

That article is from Oct 2021. I wonder what has changed in the interim.

 

[Krabby]

The switchgear looks wonderful. IA missed temp control simplicity by a country mile.

 

[landmannnn]

That article is from Oct 2021. I wonder what has changed in the interim.

This was the main article

Bundeswehr Test the Mercedes G-Class Wolf 2

German Armed Forces (Bundeswehr) Test the Mercedes G-Class Wolf 2

mercedesblog.com

 

[ryket]

The switchgear looks wonderful. IA missed temp control simplicity by a country mile.View attachment 7905587

I prefer manual switches but this looks ugly and cheap to me, like something used by combloc conscripts during the Cold War.

Gotta agree with @TD5-90 - the engine is better but that's pretty much it.

 

[CRH]

Exterior looks far better than the pimped tarmac only versions. Also prefer the basic interior to the civilian version, a bit too old fashioned for sale to civilians but still better than what is on offer for the general public.

 

[Tazzieman]

The switchgear looks wonderful. IA missed temp control simplicity by a country mile.View attachment 7905587

Blurb says ''rustic interior''
Timber beams, earthen floor?

 

[emax]

Gotta agree with @TD5-90 - the engine is better but that's pretty much it.

What is "better"? I love the inline six too, but we also have Diesel Exhaust Fluid (and with the military version we're talking about Diesel engines) which causes many problems, is a to be maintained technology and a source of sensor errors, wear and costs.

With the military version, which doesn't have all this crap, they're blatantly demonstrating that DEF-technology isn't reliable enough for their use. And that just goes to show that there are good reasons for a vehicle without all that green "we-know-better" technology.

From this perspective, I find the term “better engine” – apart from the wonderful six-cylinder characteristics – somewhat questionable. And I just read that the Wolf 2 engine is a 450 d. This engine delivers 249 hp and 600 Nm. A six cylinder too - although no inline six but 50Nm more.

So I'm not sure which engine is better.

 

[landmannnn]

Why? The key specs are obviously the same. The only big advantage is the Euro 3 emission standard. Which you won't have in a civilian version.
And honestly: The Grenadier looks _much_ better!

I can see the attraction of a brand new vehicle without any of these...

Airbags
EGR valve
DPF or catalytic converter
In car entertainment
Carplay
Nox sensors
ADAS, lane departure, stop start
TPMS
DRLs
Auto aircon, wipers, lights
Carpet
Heated/leather seats
Having to put your foot on the brake, press a button, touch your left ear with your right index finger and push a lever. to move into reverse

 

[Krabby]

I prefer manual switches but this looks ugly and cheap to me, like something used by combloc conscripts during the Cold War.

Gotta agree with @TD5-90 - the engine is better but that's pretty much it.

I don’t disagree the switch gear looks pretty chinsy my point was more about how much better non-digital HVAC controls would ha e been for the IG. Among all of the many quirks our trucks have, it’s the HVAC system that’s the most disappointing - mainly because they avoided simplicity for some reason.

 

[TD5-90]

Sure.
Unfortunately, it's 2025, not 1970. I would be the first to turn back time, but we have to live our lives now.
I have my Defender TD5, '70 and '75 Unimogs to enjoy what you mentioned, and a '87 VW T3 camper.
The (MY23) Grenadier is all that is possible I'm afraid, at least in "developed" regions like Europe.

 

[Commodore]

just yesterday my son published an article on G-Wagens and it he even gives a nod to the Grenadier. It’s a fun read for anyone interested.

Not All G-Wagens are Created Equal

It's a true product merchandising anomaly, but in 2025 not every G is OG.

carhunter.substack.com

 

[abbeyroad]

I'd ditch my Gren in a heartbeat for that.

Me too. That thing is a heavy duty tank! I love it. Give me one in Donny Gray.

 

[Psignore00]

I wish the grenadier had a buttonless/basic steering wheel like that.