Mercedes W464 G wagen

[landmannnn]

Interesting specifications for the current military spec G Wagen. The German army have just ordered 6,000 of them.

Straight 6 diesel 245hp
Solid axles all round
90 litre fuel tank
Auto transmission

A higher load rated pickup available

The new Mercedes G-Class W464 for military use and emergency use

The new Mercedes G-Class W464 for military use and emergency use. Rigid axles front and rear and the 3 liter diesel Euro 3 with 245 HP, 600 Nm

mercedesblog.com

 

[Dokatd]

Interesting specifications for the current military spec G Wagen. The German army have just ordered 6,000 of them.

Straight 6 diesel 245hp
Solid axles all round
90 litre fuel tank
Auto transmission

A higher load rated pickup available

The new Mercedes G-Class W464 for military use and emergency use

The new Mercedes G-Class W464 for military use and emergency use. Rigid axles front and rear and the 3 liter diesel Euro 3 with 245 HP, 600 Nm

mercedesblog.com

I'd ditch my Gren in a heartbeat for that.

 

[landmannnn]

I'd ditch my Gren in a heartbeat for that.

Yes, but seeing that it only meets a 20 year old emissions standard we will never get our hands on one.

 

[TD5-90]

I'd ditch my Gren in a heartbeat for that.

Why? The key specs are obviously the same. The only big advantage is the Euro 3 emission standard. Which you won't have in a civilian version.
And honestly: The Grenadier looks _much_ better!

 

[Krabby]

That article is from Oct 2021. I wonder what has changed in the interim.

 

[Krabby]

The switchgear looks wonderful. IA missed temp control simplicity by a country mile.

 

[landmannnn]

That article is from Oct 2021. I wonder what has changed in the interim.

This was the main article

Bundeswehr Test the Mercedes G-Class Wolf 2

German Armed Forces (Bundeswehr) Test the Mercedes G-Class Wolf 2

mercedesblog.com

 

[ryket]

The switchgear looks wonderful. IA missed temp control simplicity by a country mile.View attachment 7905587

I prefer manual switches but this looks ugly and cheap to me, like something used by combloc conscripts during the Cold War.

Gotta agree with @TD5-90 - the engine is better but that's pretty much it.

 

[CRH]

Exterior looks far better than the pimped tarmac only versions. Also prefer the basic interior to the civilian version, a bit too old fashioned for sale to civilians but still better than what is on offer for the general public.

 

[Tazzieman]

The switchgear looks wonderful. IA missed temp control simplicity by a country mile.View attachment 7905587

Blurb says ''rustic interior''
Timber beams, earthen floor?

 

[emax]

Gotta agree with @TD5-90 - the engine is better but that's pretty much it.

What is "better"? I love the inline six too, but we also have Diesel Exhaust Fluid (and with the military version we're talking about Diesel engines) which causes many problems, is a to be maintained technology and a source of sensor errors, wear and costs.

With the military version, which doesn't have all this crap, they're blatantly demonstrating that DEF-technology isn't reliable enough for their use. And that just goes to show that there are good reasons for a vehicle without all that green "we-know-better" technology.

From this perspective, I find the term “better engine” – apart from the wonderful six-cylinder characteristics – somewhat questionable. And I just read that the Wolf 2 engine is a 450 d. This engine delivers 249 hp and 600 Nm. A sisx cylinder too - although no inline six but 50Nm more.

So I'm not sure which engine is better.

 

[landmannnn]

Why? The key specs are obviously the same. The only big advantage is the Euro 3 emission standard. Which you won't have in a civilian version.
And honestly: The Grenadier looks _much_ better!

I can see the attraction of a brand new vehicle without any of these...

Airbags
EGR valve
DPF or catalytic converter
In car entertainment
Carplay
Nox sensors
ADAS, lane departure, stop start
TPMS
DRLs
Auto aircon, wipers, lights
Carpet
Heated/leather seats
Having to put your foot on the brake, press a button, touch your left ear with your right index finger and push a lever. to move into reverse