Main fuses used in INEOS Grenadier

[Rok_Dr]

I just used the wording in the 2024 INEOS User's Manual. You might be right.

So you are saying that these 4 wires now only come with that option selected (hitch option), you no longer get the 4 wires with the the high load aux power option? I might ask the dealer.

I think asking the dealer would be an excellent Idea as the owners manuals and other docs I have seen are not explicit about this wiring and whether it is standard or optional.

Unless I missed something, the wording in the MY24 manual for the optional high load Aux power panel (p198-199) does not mention anything about the under seat wiring. Given the change of the fuse function in MY24 vehicles I suspect its a standard fitment and if optional then logically it would have be part of the tow hitch option as that is it's function.

Finally I am also starting to suspect that the under seat wiring for MY23 cars is standard and not part of the High Load Aux option. Confusion may have arisen as it was intended for an optional compressor which never was offered,

Cheers
Steve

 

[TheDocAUS]

WIRE ENDS
The latest draft of the wire ends table. It is getting very confusing with the wire ends under the rear seats. Tip: check exactly what your car has.

It seems the wires are standard and not part of the High Load Aux Power option, as you thought. The pictures the dealer sent make it hard to work out whether there are 3 or 4 wires, one model looks like 3 wires, the other 4! The US models do have 4 wires. The AU Owner's manual I downloaded now has the US description for these wires. There is only one way to resolve this confusion, you need to check your car before doing any work.

Here are the dealer pictures.

 

[TheDocAUS]

SPARE FUSE LIST UPDATE
A small update to the spare fuse list, by adding a spare MEGA Shunt. Spares list here.

 

[TheDocAUS]

Relay list updated in first post, thanks @Rok_Dr

 

[LabRat]

Sorry to dig up such an old post, but been looking for a way to add footwell illumination. My thought was to tap into FI25 since it was switched with the headlights.

However on my MY24, FI25 is a 25A fuse, FI26 is empty. I pulled 25 and the cluster lights are still on.

Are the 24's wired differently than the 23's or are US wired differently than ROW.

INTERIOR ELECTRICAL CENTRE (FUSE BOX 1)

This Fuse Box is located under the rear seats. It has Relays, Low Profile JCase fuses and Mini blade fuses. It is under a panel in the 2 seater version.

JCase fuses used
The Low Profile JCase Fuses (895/PAL Fuses) are rated at 30 amps (5 fuses), 40 amps (3 fuses) and maybe 60 amps (2 fuses).

Mini blade fuses used
The Mini blade fuses are used are rated at 5 amps, 7.5 amps, 10 amps, 15 amps, 20 amps, 25 amps and 30 amps.

Diagram and photo

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Photos from 2 seater Utility Wagon (2023 AU Spec) with the aux power option

APPARENT POWER SOURCE FOR INTERIOR ELECTRICAL CENTRE (FUSE BOX 1)
The power for the Interior Electrical Centre (Fuse Box 1) appears to come from Stud 3 on the 7 Stud busbar with a ZCASE® MEGA fuse rated at 150 amps marked with Blue tape. See here. Also check the busbar fuse if there is no power to this fuse box.

VARIATIONS BETWEEN COUNTRIES
IMPORTANT: There are some variations between countries, for example F113 varies between the US Spec Model and the AU Spec Model. But not all of these variations are know outside INEOS. When in doubt, speak to your dealer or autoelectrician.

This is what it looks like under Fuse Box 1.
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[Rok_Dr]

Sorry to dig up such an old post, but been looking for a way to add footwell illumination. My thought was to tap into FI25 since it was switched with the headlights.

However on my MY24, FI25 is a 25A fuse, FI26 is empty. I pulled 25 and the cluster lights are still on.

Are the 24's wired differently than the 23's or are US wired differently than ROW.

Yes my24 vehicles are different and FI25 is now for trailer brakes. Your owners manual should have the correct fuse information or refer to appendix two in my guide. Download Here

Cheers
Steve

 

[LabRat]

Yes my24 vehicles are different and FI25 is now for trailer brakes. Your owners manual should have the correct fuse information or refer to appendix two in my guide. Download Here

Cheers
Steve

You the man!!!! Thanks

 

[TheDocAUS]

UPDATED WIRE ENDS TABLE
Wire ends Table revised and uploaded to the Resource area here. Download the PDF file.

 

[BigJMaas]

Ok... I think I have them all lol

 

[Chook]

AUSTRALIA – cost of the fuse kit
I bought spare fuses following my own suggestions at Swe-Check. I did not need Mini fuses (I already had them) or relays (they must come from INEOS).
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Remote spare fuse kit cost
If you need Mini, JCase fuses (Low Profile JCase Fuses (895/PAL Fuses)), Midi and ZCASE® MEGA fuses for remote travel it will be roughly AUD200.

Basic spare fuse kit cost
The basic spares kits will be around AUD90, based on 35 assorted Mini fuses, a single 60 amp Midi fuse, a single ZCASE® MEGA fuse rated at 300amps and a single ZCASE® MEGA fuse at 350 amps. Choose if you want some JCase fuses (Low Profile JCase Fuses (895/PAL Fuses)).

Relays will cost more
Relays will be extra.

Sorry looked through all the threads and replies but can't find a link to the "Basic" and "Remote" fuse kit list ???

 

[Adam-Oz]

Sorry looked through all the threads and replies but can't find a link to the "Basic" and "Remote" fuse kit list ???

I am carrying a complete set of fuses for the Cape York trip. Happy to share if any fuses are required.

Adam

 

[Tazzieman]

Has anyone here blown a fuse yet?

 

[Lollo050968]

Has anyone here blown a fuse yet?

Yes, 25A mini Fuse of roof plug, ext2 I think. Try to connect with MPPT of Solar panel, to load battery. MPPT had 20A fuse, but I blow the Ineos Fuse. No,problem, but difficult to reach under rear seat and plastic cover

 

[Tazzieman]

Yes, 25A mini Fuse of roof plug, ext2 I think. Try to connect with MPPT of Solar panel, to load battery. MPPT had 20A fuse, but I blow the Ineos Fuse. No,problem, but difficult to reach under rear seat and plastic cover

That cover could be redesigned. I've cut mine. Replacing a fuse should be a 2 minute job!

 

[Clark Kent]

Has anyone here blown a fuse yet?

Metaphorically or...?

Fuses don't typically blow of their own accord. Sure there is an occasional fuse that goes bad but the probability is low. Carrying 1+ of every type and rating seems like maximum prepper to me but you do you if that's your comfort level.

(If that is you, please affix a smalldecal on your vehicle so I know who to flag down if I'm stranded with a fuse problem )

There's been a few campaigns for checking/relocating electrical harnesses (starter, alternator, overhead panel, steering pump) but I personally haven't seen any reports of consequential electrical failures or fuse issues. Most fuse problems can be traced to mishandling or modifications hence the advice to make no mods in the week before a trip then test test test before you go.

Not to sound disrespectful, but some of the questions asked on here remind me of that saying: "If you think professionals are expensive then try using amateurs". I'm retired and I have plenty of time but there is still work I'll pay to get done by a professional. For sure I'll check it afterwards to see if it was the pro guy or the apprentice who did the work and I always learn something from studying the work done by others, even if it's don't go back to that business again

 

[Adam-Oz]

That cover could be redesigned. I've cut mine. Replacing a fuse should be a

I couldn’t work out why they designed a cover to make it hard to access fuses, just seemed like an afterthought.

 

[Adam-Oz]

I am going to leave the cover off when this installation is finished so I can easily access everything. I have removed the rear seats and will install a hard floor for packing with access panels cut in.