Front Drive Shaft Update

[pmatusov]

If you haven't changed the joint to a non sealed version then you are correct. But once you have changed the joints once then it's super easy to just swap joints real quick.

I made one step towards it - added an angle grinder to my trail toolset

 

[parb]

anyone have pictures of what exactly it entails to swap from the factory cv to the terraflex cv?
angle grinder to get it off?

 

[abbeyroad]

Scott Brady from Expedition Overland mentions IA "fixed" the front drive shaft issue. Given that this content was uploaded 5 months ago, was there in fact a documented front drive shaft update released by IA?

View: https://youtu.be/vLOskm23730?si=Kdv1twmTuCZr7qF1&t=1540

 

[Dokatd]

anyone have pictures of what exactly it entails to swap from the factory cv to the terraflex cv?
angle grinder to get it off?

I posted a detailed description somewhere. I don't recall if I had pics. I still have the old one floating around my shop somewhere. But it really is pretty simple.

Happy to make a video if someone has one they want swapped and they want to ship it or drop it by here in Dallas.

 

[ziploc_adv]

I posted a detailed description somewhere. I don't recall if I had pics. I still have the old one floating around my shop somewhere. But it really is pretty simple.

Happy to make a video if someone has one they want swapped and they want to ship it or drop it by here in Dallas.

I just read your post…

https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/front-drive-shaft-update.12418127/post-1333340627

 

[Commodore]

Scott Brady from Expedition Overland mentions IA "fixed" the front drive shaft issue. Given that this content was uploaded 5 months ago, was there in fact a documented front drive shaft update released by IA?

View: https://youtu.be/vLOskm23730?si=Kdv1twmTuCZr7qF1&t=1540

My new front driveshaft has exact same CV’s as the one that failed. The dealer said they are the same. Barring some news that the boot material has changed and we just can’t see that update, I don’t believe that it is fixed.

 

[Clark Kent]

Of those who have fitted the Teraflex hi-angle, did you happen to notice if the throat of the coupling is wider than the standard Dana-Spicer coupling? I'm curious if a part of the problem is pinching of the boot against the coupling mouth at the 4 to 8 o'clock positions. Obviously the hi-angle CV needs to allow for more ball travel also.

 

[acky]

My new front driveshaft has exact same CV’s as the one that failed. The dealer said they are the same. Barring some news that the boot material has changed and we just can’t see that update, I don’t believe that it is fixed.

My dealer advised "you wont have another issue" and "im not supposed to mention this" but the cv rubber is thicker
he may have been just placating me but...

 

[Dokatd]

Of those who have fitted the Teraflex hi-angle, did you happen to notice if the throat of the coupling is wider than the standard Dana-Spicer coupling? I'm curious if a part of the problem is pinching of the boot against the coupling mouth at the 4 to 8 o'clock positions. Obviously the hi-angle CV needs to allow for more ball travel also.

The Terra joint and the stock IG joint are virtually identical. There are minor changes in the stampings. But the throat for the shaft is the same more or less.

Mine has been going strong and I have basically stopped checking it.

 

[Sauerländer]

Do I have to order four of the joints to get on the save side?
Can the joints be fitted on both ends of the shafts?

Regards

 

[Dokatd]

Do I have to order four of the joints to get on the save side?
Can the joints be fitted on both ends of the shafts?

Regards

You can get away with one joint as a backup plus tools to change the first factory joint. That includes a grinder to remove the backing plate on the factory joint. But once you replace one then you will no longer need a grinder for that particular joint. Your next option is to proactively replace the front t-case side joint. This makes changing it on the side of the road in the future much easier. The joints do fit in all positions, but only the front T-case joint has proven to be problematic.

So no, you do not need 4 joints. Just get one or two depending on your vehicle use and desire to keep tools on board your truck.

 

[Sauerländer]

I hate to wait for something that might happen and cause a breakdown.
I'm going to replace one joint of the front shaft before it comes to an issue.

B.t.w. this is one point I really apprechiate about this Forum! You can get assistance very quick and mostly very valuable!

Of course I'll buy a spare one!

Many Thanks!

 

[parb]

I hate to wait for something that might happen and cause a breakdown.
I'm going to replace one joint of the front shaft before it comes to an issue.

B.t.w. this is one point I really apprechiate about this Forum! You can get assistance very quick and mostly very valuable!

Of course I'll buy a spare one!

Many Thanks!

I feel very similarly.

 

[Zimm]

I feel very similarly.

You must be over 50.

 

[Sauerländer]

I'm almost 60!

 

[Sauerländer]

Hello,

the day I installed the Eibach Lift Kit I also installed the Mud Terrain Tires.
Since then I have a little vibration somewhere in the Grenadier.
I cannot find out if it's caused by the drive shaft or by the tires.

Are there any experiences if I would install the new cv joint, that's waiting in my garage, to get rid of the vibrations?

Or to aks the other way round, did anybody recognize a change in vibrations after installing teh cv joint?

Regards Sauerländer

 

[Logsplitter]

Hello,

the day I installed the Eibach Lift Kit I also installed the Mud Terrain Tires.
Since then I have a little vibration somewhere in the Grenadier.
I cannot find out if it's caused by the drive shaft or by the tires.

Are there any experiences if I would install the new cv joint, that's waiting in my garage, to get rid of the vibrations?

Or to aks the other way round, did anybody recognize a change in vibrations after installing teh cv joint?

Regards Sauerländer

Check this thread. Post 214

Thread 'Eibach Pro-Lift Kit ~ +30mm coil springs'

Jul 27, 2023

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• Forum: Suspension, Chassis, Steering

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[Sauerländer]

In the thread You mentioned the discussion is about different joints, from the JL oder the JK, as far as I'm concerned...

I ordered the joint for the JK modells, Teraflex 1744014, suppossed te be the right one.

It is not installed in the moment but I was thinking if it might redude the vibrations.

Regards

 

[Texas Grenadier]

Hello,

the day I installed the Eibach Lift Kit I also installed the Mud Terrain Tires.
Since then I have a little vibration somewhere in the Grenadier.
I cannot find out if it's caused by the drive shaft or by the tires.

Are there any experiences if I would install the new cv joint, that's waiting in my garage, to get rid of the vibrations?

Or to aks the other way round, did anybody recognize a change in vibrations after installing teh cv joint?

Regards Sauerländer

As @Agile1 mentioned to me in another thread where i asked a similar question about vibration. This comes with the territory when lifting 4x4's and adding bigger tires. Mud terrain will give you vibration at speed and also slow rolling. You will have a different ride than stock set up.

 

[Sauerländer]

I'm sorry and meanwhile I ask myself how I could make the impression to be new in the segment of 4x4! It is slightly different!

My first 4x4, 35 years ago, was a Wrangler 4.0, then I owned a Defender 90, then two Defender 110, then a Discovery II, then a Mitsubishi Pickup, then a Defender 130,
then a Landrover Series 3A , then a Toyota FJ Cruiser and now I bought the Grenadier in addition to the last two 4x4s.
All of my 4x4s had been modificated, always at least lifted and always Mud Terrain tires!

My question was not a general question, if the joint could reduce vibrations, the question was, if members who already did the swap, noticed any difference!

Regards