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Dunno if other people have seen this but at around 5:20 there is a view of the underside of a PTO-2 vehicle. It looks to me like the lower control arm mounts have been substantially streamlined. It might be the dark colour but They look flush with some of the other underbody components.
 

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I think I have seen a PTO-2 and when I looked underneath they certainly looked different and less obtrusive
 

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Dunno if other people have seen this but at around 5:20 there is a view of the underside of a PTO-2 vehicle. It looks to me like the lower control arm mounts have been substantially streamlined. It might be the dark colour but They look flush with some of the other underbody components.
I was part way through watching it and saw your post. Spoiler alert! Now I don't want to watch the rest
 

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I am not sure but it looks definetly different. Is it possible that they installed a fender plate between the two control arms going upwards ( 5 cm) and forward (40cm) from the lowest point? so the control arms do not stay allone that deep and there are fewer hard edges
 

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Very interesting video. I'm impressed with the appearance of the interior spec; the design is very clean/simple and yet somehow upscale. Thanks for linking this video.
 
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The front bumper seems to have grown. It is much more protuding than on the cars seen before, I estimate 5-7cm more.
Does not look good and I hope this will not be final.
 

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The forward mounting points for the rear control arms seem much more tucked-up and flush with the frame than in earlier prototypes. Its hard to tell for sure just from the video, but this seems to be a really significant change - perhaps based off all the feedback online?

I agree with blueTdi - the front bumper seems to be sticking out (forward) much more than in previous models.
 

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I hope this will not be final.
So do I. :confused:

Proportions are completely out of balance.

- Makes the car longer which might be bad on ferries.
- Worse upon parking
- Ugly
 

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Great seat for my large arse. Offside or nearside, decisions decisions.
 
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I'm not sure you know, here are a couple of pics of earlier cars plus a screen grab of the PTO-2, it maybe just the camera angle???

Hmmm. I fear, you are right. Did not notice the large bumper when I saw the car in real. Anyway, we have to take it as they deliver it, but I will not like it.
 

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Mine will have the roo bar mounted to it and driving lights so you won't notice the size of the bumper, or be able to sit on it
 

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The G-Wagon does not seem to have a bumper that protrudes as far. Perhaps this image of a G-Wagon is from a country that does not have the same regulations that Ineos is trying to satisfy? I wonder if bumpers will vary from market to market.

g_wagon.jpg
 

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Hmmm. I fear, you are right. Did not notice the large bumper when I saw the car in real. Anyway, we have to take it as they deliver it, but I will not like it.
Perhaps a good sign you didn't notice it, perhaps it blends in more than the photos make out. Time will tell.
 

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I see it like blueTdi. Maybe it looks different depending on where the light comes from.

It seems anyway a bit deeper to me on the red nosed car.
 

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PTO-2? I‘ve heard of 2B? Is PTO-2 production? Aren’t at least a few 2023 models out yet? If they aren’t out by the end of Sept, we have a problem.
 

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There are definitely different bumpers in different countries. I remember e.g. the old US Audis 5000 had more massive bumpers than the German ones which were named Audi 100.

US Version Audi 5000 C3:

1990_Audi_100_front_(USA).jpg

German Version Audi 100 C3:

Audi_100_C3_front_20080228.jpg
 
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Hi all have taken stills from the video and lightened the shadows so we can see the details I apologise for the quality but you can see that the bttm links are different and is that a skid plate please look at the transfer box did I see fins like a motorbike cylinder head??Gren bash11.jpgGren new sus mount11.jpg
 

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I see the reflectors on the side of the bumper, normally that means a USA spec to me. I wonder if they have just one size fits all bumper to save costs.

We all get a larger size bumper ? It does look quite big, however I spent quite a bit of time looking at one recently and although it is big I didn’t really notice it as being bulbous.

Now you have pointed it out, I cant unsee it 😆
 

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