I set my heat to full onto the screen and fan no 1 with a/c. When the condensation on the screen clears I turn off a/c and set to foot and screen, on fan 1. I get heat to feet and screen. However it takes some miles driving to get really hot before I turn the heat setting down.
An update on this post for those remotely interested. (as some semi interesting observations)This is really interesting and in some way relatable to the information I was given by my dealer just before Christmas. They have performed the system bleed many times and re-vacuum filled etc and they said the best they could get was warm, not hot, air from the car when running stationary but as soon as they drive it it went back to cold.
Greta won’t like this suggestion but if you start your car, ask for max heat and leave it running for 20 minutes to get fully up to engine temp, does that hose get warm and more importantly; does it go cold again if you set off driving?
Sit rep on our situation, which has taken some positive turns today and I’m very aware that I don’t want to be another cross bloke on the internet complaining for the sake of it.
I get the impression that our dealer has been put under quite significant pressure by lack of coms from Ineos regarding our car as well as a couple of other trouble in patients and they have tried to do a fair job but the lid blew off in my direction this week.
What was out of order was the whole deal about the loan vehicle but I think that is on its way to being resolved as I've now got a direct line to a chap in management at customer services in Ineos UK. He has apologised (for what little that is worth) and committed that they will now either recover our car to their own facility or be directly involved with further diagnosis and repair to rectify the issues. I don’t think stopping, switching off and on, dancing three times round the maypole and feeling up the coolant hoses every time the car goes out is a satisfactory solution. I want this thing to perform right, it was after all “Built on Purpose”. (I knew marketing was bullshit!)
In the meantime he is organising another vehicle, thankfully a diesel with tow bar, to be provided directly from Ineos so my agent can have their demo back. Hopefully everyone will be happy then.
Over the last few weeks I've become so disillusioned with 'Grenadier' and if you'd asked me yesterday, there was no way I wanted it back and just wanted a refund and to move on, essentially throwing two years waiting and a whole load of enthusiasm for this project in the bin. We're going to give it a bit more time and hopefully Ineos UK will be able to restore faith. I was genuinely so gutted and pretty glum about how things had turned out and also worried about how much egg I would have on my face when all the people I told (bored to death) about the Grenadier asked me why I was back driving my old Range Rover!
Mine works fine. It’s a bit slow to change direction of air flow (compared to my discovery) but I kind of like the quirkiness, it does heat fine though.I have noticed my diesels heater really is not very warm, even after a long motorway drive with a trailer, the heater output on max is tepid to say the most. I’m in Scotland at the moment and it was -1 yesterday morning. On my drive to work about 3/4 miles, the heater remained cold the whole time, even though the temperature gauge was showing 90 degrees. Can anyone say if their heater vents are actually hot normally before I hit the dealer with this one please. I know new diesels take longer to get heat up but the output even when the engine is upto temperature is just not acceptable
Hi sean0809, From reading about the heating system on the forum, it may be that one of the issues is that the flaps directing air flow do not have a robust actuator to move the flap. If that is the case, then perhaps running the system in manual vs automatic and only starting out with a low fan speed will allow the actuator to more easily position the flap where you want air directed. Once the flap makes the change, then you may be able to crank up the fan speed or perhaps even shift to automatic. Just a thought as I had a 1985 BMW 735i that worked this way when it got a bit older. DaBull
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So why so much variability in the HVAC system performance? Reports of working perfect to not working at all.
Great to see that you’re continue to enjoy your Grenadier @Arkaig - you must be one of the highest mileages in the U.K. Would you say your heating system is quick to respond to control inputs or is there some delay? I agree when it is pumping at full heat it is capable of good temperature, just frustrating that has never happened in our car! Also how are your tyres wearing after that mileage and did you ever have to have a re-alignment. All three I’ve driven on the road now have the steering wheel off centre from factory.
@JOB My heating system is quick to respond, well no more than a 5-10 second delay in changing output from say face to feet albeit with a brief cool air interlude. Temperature changes are pretty much instant, assuming engine up to normal operating. Auto similarly. Tyres seem to be wearing evenly all round - front & rear, albeit I have not swopped them round from new. Yes my steering wheel was/is marginally out of alignment, 3-4 degrees to the right, but I've just grown accustomed to it (a Gren foible - they all do that, don't they?
) and it really doesn't bother me, I can still steer a straight line and know which direction the steering wheel is pointing! Sorry to hear you've been having problems, fingers crossed your dealer can sort matters for you.
Hopefully so and we’ll be back on the road in our vehicle!@JOB My heating system is quick to respond, well no more than a 5-10 second delay in changing output from say face to feet albeit with a brief cool air interlude. Temperature changes are pretty much instant, assuming engine up to normal operating. Auto similarly. Tyres seem to be wearing evenly all round - front & rear, albeit I have not swopped them round from new. Yes my steering wheel was/is marginally out of alignment, 3-4 degrees to the right, but I've just grown accustomed to it (a Gren foible - they all do that, don't they?
Roughly the same experience, although my wife said she couldn’t feel warm air in the passenger footwell. She didn’t get cold but said there was occasionally a blast of cold when switching vents. Requires further investigation…
Hi Msnow22
