What Rocksliders / Side Steps did you choose

[Peterr]

In March 2025 I ordered the Buzz Overland from OK4WD, just waiting for the email that they are stateside.

 

[Slov]

Is installing sliders a solo or shop oriented job? Im willing to do the work and have enough space to do it, but want to make sure I'm not in over my head. I work on my own dirt bikes and have no issues installing bolt on parts. How long does it take? 2 person job recommended if not having a shop do it?

 

[Sela_2024]

Depends on the sliders but a second set of hands is helpful. You can get away with jack stands and/or a jack to help hold them. That’s what I did installing my Owls solo

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Is installing sliders a solo or shop oriented job? Im willing to do the work and have enough space to do it, but want to make sure I'm not in over my head. I work on my own dirt bikes and have no issues installing bolt on parts. How long does it take? 2 person job recommended if not having a shop do it?

It’s easy… you just need a floor jack to help hold it..

Some of the sliders bolt together via multiple pieces.. I reckon those are even easier to install than one piece sliders

Just don’t get the agile brand “sliders”. they bolt onto the body instead of the frame.

 

[Zimm]

Is installing sliders a solo or shop oriented job? Im willing to do the work and have enough space to do it, but want to make sure I'm not in over my head. I work on my own dirt bikes and have no issues installing bolt on parts. How long does it take? 2 person job recommended if not having a shop do it?

Just get a cheap motorcycle jack from harbor freight. I use one for my steel skid plates on other trucks. The days of laying flat using an arm and a knee while centering a 110lb plate are over.

You just need to be smarter than the lump of steel. Unfortunately it took me until I was 40.

 

[Gxgn]

I went with Rockslide Engineering sliders - I would only recommend them if you have somebody else install them for you.

 

[Brock63]

I have used White Knuckle Offroad for all of my Landcruisers over years...and almost got them again as I trust their build quality and the kick out towards rear helps keep wheels and rear quarter panels off of mud and rock walls if slide down sideways or navigating tight turn around a stump or boulder. That being said I tried out the Agile Offroad. Mostly because this vehicle wont be as hard core of offroader and rock wheeling as I did in others....and it fits tight underneath and looks factory.
It was a pain in ass to install with tall the drilling and mounting stuff...but is very solid, very well built, and solid as a rock.

Would I do it again.....yes and no, depends on what will use vehicle for. The only way I see maybe needing to consider another install is if I get a Quartermaster in a year or two and trade the station wagon in for it. Then depending on what I learned with my load outs. uses, etc.....will determine if go AO for a cleaner look....or go back to the in your face WKO with rear kick out?

 

[Tom109]

Just get a cheap motorcycle jack from harbor freight. I use one for my steel skid plates on other trucks. The days of laying flat using an arm and a knee while centering a 110lb plate are over.

You just need to be smarter than the lump of steel. Unfortunately it took me until I was 40.

Plastic milk crate for the win!

 

[Zimm]

Plastic milk crate for the win!

Noooo… for 120 bucks you can wheel jack them into place, and you’ll use that thing over and over again. Quite a handy devise.

 

[Slov]

What about the Owl Side Steps? I've heard some guys say great things about and 1 or 2 say the quality of metal isn't the best or the welds? I reached out them twice so far and haven't hard back. Once over phone at the Mesa location and then over email since they didnt respond via help chat with someone assigned to me. They have some cool looking parts, but I want to make sure I'm prioritizing function.

The kick out from White Knuckle that Brock63 stated sounds really nice, but so far I'm still on the Buzz Overland train for mine.

 

[ADVAW8S]

What about the Owl Side Steps? I've heard some guys say great things about a few say the quality of metal isn't the best or the welds? I reached out them twice so far and haven't hard back. Once over phone at the Mesa location and then over email since they didnt respond via help chat with someone assigned to me. They have some cool looking parts, but I want to make sure I'm prioritizing function.

The kick out from White Knuckle that Brock63 stated sounds really nice, but so far I'm still on the Buzz Overland train for mine.

I have signature autosport Rock sliders ony QM and they are awesome. Something to consider.

https://www.signatureautosports.com/product-page/ineos-grendier-signature-rock-sliders

 

[HereinDaRockies]

I have used White Knuckle Offroad for all of my Landcruisers over years...and almost got them again as I trust their build quality and the kick out towards rear helps keep wheels and rear quarter panels off of mud and rock walls if slide down sideways or navigating tight turn around a stump or boulder. That being said I tried out the Agile Offroad. Mostly because this vehicle wont be as hard core of offroader and rock wheeling as I did in others....and it fits tight underneath and looks factory.
It was a pain in ass to install with tall the drilling and mounting stuff...but is very solid, very well built, and solid as a rock.

Would I do it again.....yes and no, depends on what will use vehicle for. The only way I see maybe needing to consider another install is if I get a Quartermaster in a year or two and trade the station wagon in for it. Then depending on what I learned with my load outs. uses, etc.....will determine if go AO for a cleaner look....or go back to the in your face WKO with rear kick out?

Isn’t attaching it to the body just defeating the purpose? I am utterly confused by the value-prop of the agile off-road “sliders”

 

[Dlucky]

I have used White Knuckle Offroad for all of my Landcruisers over years...and almost got them again as I trust their build quality and the kick out towards rear helps keep wheels and rear quarter panels off of mud and rock walls if slide down sideways or navigating tight turn around a stump or boulder. That being said I tried out the Agile Offroad. Mostly because this vehicle wont be as hard core of offroader and rock wheeling as I did in others....and it fits tight underneath and looks factory.
It was a pain in ass to install with tall the drilling and mounting stuff...but is very solid, very well built, and solid as a rock.

Would I do it again.....yes and no, depends on what will use vehicle for. The only way I see maybe needing to consider another install is if I get a Quartermaster in a year or two and trade the station wagon in for it. Then depending on what I learned with my load outs. uses, etc.....will determine if go AO for a cleaner look....or go back to the in your face WKO with rear kick out?

Do you know if the Agile sliders can be used as a jack point? Wondering if they can support a jack lift for a tire change

 

[Slov]

I have signature autosport Rock sliders ony QM and they are awesome. Something to consider.

https://www.signatureautosports.com/product-page/ineos-grendier-signature-rock-sliders

Yea, those are pretty cool looking. I am just looking for just a tad but more of a step. Not a lot, just some more. Hard to find ones that compete with Buzz Overland or Blacksheep ones from what I'm seeing. I cant even find a negative experience for the Buzz Overland ones.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Do you know if the Agile sliders can be used as a jack point? Wondering if they can support a jack lift for a tire change

No way. It’s attachment point is the rocker panel area of the body

It's really unfortunate that they have careless language on their page:
Their sliders clearly bolts onto the body.

 

[Brock63]

Do you know if the Agile sliders can be used as a jack point? Wondering if they can support a jack lift for a tire change

I think there is a discrepancy on their website...maybe from earlier models or something. On website it says, "reinforced mounting points that secure to your vehicles frame and provide the necessary strength and stability"...... but it only mounts to body.
That being said it is not a typical body mount as we are familiar. I would argue it is just as robust and sturdy and durable as my other slides on Landcruisers. I may be wrong but that is how it feels.

There is more to the install than shown in pictures above.... First you remove outer plastic sill and the mounting brackets that align on studs. You then bolt up the billet aluminum versions from AO in place and secure...then ping center of every hole as your drill point. Remove billet hangers (factory are plastic)...and then drill out every mounting hole in addition to the ones already there for mounting billet bars. A dozen or more holes through two layers of body..outer and inner structural metal. Then you insert a bushing and use a tool to expand it like a rivet...until secure.
Once area ll drilled and bushings installed. You re-mount the billet aluminum mounting rails......then you mount the actual solid heavy steel sliders to them...first installing all the TOP BOLTS that are flush mount....then another slew of bolts underneath in holes already present. While not part of the frame rail....this feels like part of frame with how thick and solid the part is.
I will tell you these things do not flex, bend, wiggle, rattle or anything....there are like 20+ attachment points PER SIDE so there is no way for it to cause unequal pressure in sill area especially with how solid the mounts are and then the actual wrap around steel that forms step and lower slider in a single continuous smooth surface.

I was hesitant at first and regretted purchasing as did not mount to pre tapped holes in frame....but after installing and using them....I have no doubt they would support you to use as jacking point. If they are good enough to hang your truck on a granite boulder or stump.....the truck does not get heavier with it being offroad. LOL

Time will tell.....but as of now these things are just as solid and rugged as my White Knuckle Offroad sliders...i mean I am 250 lbs and my buddy that helped is over 200 lbs...and we can both stand and jump on them and there is absolutely no flex.

Buy what makes you comfortable....but in driveway I will use floor jack on regular points per manual. Offroad I will use whatever is available...jack mounts, sliders, recovery points, etc......

 

[HereinDaRockies]

I think there is a discrepancy on their website...maybe from earlier models or something. On website it says, "reinforced mounting points that secure to your vehicles frame and provide the necessary strength and stability"...... but it only mounts to body.
That being said it is not a typical body mount as we are familiar. I would argue it is just as robust and sturdy and durable as my other slides on Landcruisers. I may be wrong but that is how it feels.

There is more to the install than shown in pictures above.... First you remove outer plastic sill and the mounting brackets that align on studs. You then bolt up the billet aluminum versions from AO in place and secure...then ping center of every hole as your drill point. Remove billet hangers (factory are plastic)...and then drill out every mounting hole in addition to the ones already there for mounting billet bars. A dozen or more holes through two layers of body..outer and inner structural metal. Then you insert a bushing and use a tool to expand it like a rivet...until secure.
Once area ll drilled and bushings installed. You re-mount the billet aluminum mounting rails......then you mount the actual solid heavy steel sliders to them...first installing all the TOP BOLTS that are flush mount....then another slew of bolts underneath in holes already present. While not part of the frame rail....this feels like part of frame with how thick and solid the part is.
I will tell you these things do not flex, bend, wiggle, rattle or anything....there are like 20+ attachment points PER SIDE so there is no way for it to cause unequal pressure in sill area especially with how solid the mounts are and then the actual wrap around steel that forms step and lower slider in a single continuous smooth surface.

I was hesitant at first and regretted purchasing as did not mount to pre tapped holes in frame....but after installing and using them....I have no doubt they would support you to use as jacking point. If they are good enough to hang your truck on a granite boulder or stump.....the truck does not get heavier with it being offroad. LOL

Time will tell.....but as of now these things are just as solid and rugged as my White Knuckle Offroad sliders...i mean I am 250 lbs and my buddy that helped is over 200 lbs...and we can both stand and jump on them and there is absolutely no flex.

Buy what makes you comfortable....but in driveway I will use floor jack on regular points per manual. Offroad I will use whatever is available...jack mounts, sliders, recovery points, etc......

Jumping on them with humans involve forces entirely orthogonal and orders of magnitude less than the forces they face when resting / slamming the vehicle mass on them, no?

I am just saying we all know what DOM steel mounted to the frame represents.. it’s not a novel experiment. It's a known quantity.

I am not familiar with how protective sliders / steps are when mounted onto vehicle’s body. I haven't seen enough data points for this slider approach that gives me confidence of it being sufficiently protective.

 

[Slov]

No way. It’s attachment point is the rocker panel area of the body

It's really unfortunate that they have careless language on their page:
Their sliders clearly bolts onto the body.
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Yea they should really clarify that. We know theres going to be atleast one guy who claims he didnt know, and there's gonna be a whole fiasco.

 

[Brock63]

Jumping on them with humans involve forces entirely orthogonal and orders of magnitude less than the forces they face when resting / slamming the vehicle mass on them, no?

I am just saying we all know what DOM steel mounted to the frame represents.. it’s not a novel experiment. It's a known quantity.

I am not familiar with how protective sliders / steps are when mounted onto vehicle’s body. I haven't seen enough data points for this slider approach that gives me confidence of it being sufficiently protective.

Oh I know that....been rock crawling and offroading for many many years....but after installing a dozen or so rock sliders on various vehicles over the past 3 decades...using them offroad and sliding on them, slamming on them off a ledge outside of Ouray CO.....get a pretty good feel for what will work and what wont. These will definitely do the job. I would not use a hi-lift on them as there is no real place to connect securely and will likely just can opener you door. LOL But between wheel straps, rear hitch and recovery point points....am not too concerned.

 

[Brock63]

Yea they should really clarify that. We know theres going to be atleast one guy who claims he didnt know, and there's gonna be a whole fiasco.

I called it out to them in the CONTACT US page and told them (cut and pasted it since never saw that myself before mentioned here).... They just called me and said they couldnt see it...so walked them to it online and said it definitely does not attach to frame and dont want people buying them expecting that or using for anything other than a slider. So at least they called...talked with me and said would be editing that portion of the description Overview.
Their goal was high clearance, absolutely smooth sliding surface on bottom, could be used as step....and look OEM and of course protecting the body sill from slamming on rocks and debris. I would say they met those goals.... Good conversation.....