Towing Hitch

[Eric]

The hitch hight seems a little high for me was going to bolt a drop plate on.

Not in the UK you can't unless it has Type Approval or your insurance will be invalid. The only vehicles with Type Approval tow bar drop plates (to my knowledge) are the Defender (old style) and I think one of the Toyota pickups

 

[DCPU]

Not in the UK you can't unless it has Type Approval or your insurance will be invalid. The only vehicles with Type Approval tow bar drop plates (to my knowledge) are the Defender (old style) and I think one of the Toyota pickups

M1 or N1?

https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/vehicle-accessories-removable-winch.12374014/page-3#post-1333138167

 

[Eric]

M1 or N1?

https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/vehicle-accessories-removable-winch.12374014/page-3#post-1333138167

Ah, M1. Sorry because I'm M1 I always think M1

 

[CountyV8]

Not in the UK you can't unless it has Type Approval or your insurance will be invalid. The only vehicles with Type Approval tow bar drop plates (to my knowledge) are the Defender (old style) and I think one of the Toyota pickups

Nothing a CNC flame cutter or water jet won't sort out then of to the galvanisers = sorted

 

[CountyV8]

M1 or N1?

https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/vehicle-accessories-removable-winch.12374014/page-3#post-1333138167

So why is the 2" receiver fitted to both variants if it's not so called type approved why fit it ??? Why not fit an approved solution for either variant.?

 

[Eric]

So why is the 2" receiver fitted to both variants if it's not so called type approved why fit it ??? Why not fit an approved solution for either variant.?

Seems like one standard is fitted to all variants, so it can be adapted to each country's requirements. Then there is only one part to manufacture.

 

[DCPU]

Firstly was that to the centre of the towball and I presume that this was a PT02 vehicle. The EC Directive 94/20/EC states that the tow ball height (to the centre of the ball) should be between 350 and 420mm from the ground with the vehicle in a 'laden' state.

"The height requirement shall not apply in the case of category G off-road vehicles as defined in the Consolidated Resolution on the Construction of Vehicles (R.E.3) (document TRANS/WP.29/78/Rev.3, para. 2)"

Addendum 54: Regulation No. 55 "Uniform provisions concerning the approval of mechanical coupling components of combinations of vehicles"

 

[DCPU]

Seems like one standard is fitted to all variants, so it can be adapted to each country's requirements. Then there is only one part to manufacture.

Looks that way ~ the "Vertical Towing Interface" forms the core structure for 3(?) separate towing systems and is type approved in each market as required.

 

[CountyV8]

Looks that way ~ the "Vertical Towing Interface" forms the core structure for 3(?) separate towing systems and is type approved in each market as required.

Or not seems you can't fit a 2" receiver to the Belstaff editions.

 

[DaveB]

Or not seems you can't fit a 2" receiver to the Belstaff editions.

It says 1 7/8" but I was told it is definitely 2" for Australia

 

[CountyV8]

Looks that way ~ the "Vertical Towing Interface" forms the core structure for 3(?) separate towing systems and is type approved in each market as required.

Just got this back from Ineos so is it yes or no.

"
I asked my technical team about your enquiry regarding whether the two inch receiver hitch on the tow plate are type approved for use in the UK with a Trialmaster version.

They came back with the following ;

"To my understanding it is not approved for towing in the UK, we do not offer this as an option in the U.K."

I hope this helps you further in your interest in the Grenadier, we look forward to hearing from you in the future.

Please do not hesitate to contact us if you need any further assistance.

Thanks,

 

[Hannes01]

For those who have doubts about the trailer hitch height, I could make the picture below at my dealer today (no towball mounted yet), height is about 42 cm to the lower part of the plate, or 17 inches.


View attachment 7804064

next question:
what is the size of the square hole?
and how deep is the shaft?
cross holes to insert a lock?

 

[CountyV8]

next question:
what is the size of the square hole?
and how deep is the shaft?
cross holes to insert a lock?

Dont bother not type approved for EU

 

[Hannes01]

In Germany we can buy plug-in couplings with an E mark, which means they are permitted
or do you mean that the existing installation has no approval?

 

[Logsplitter]

Or not seems you can't fit a 2" receiver to the Belstaff editions.

You can fit it but as not approved for M1 vehicles could be a problem in the event of a claim or accident. For N1 vehicles you can use a 2” receiver hitch as far as i understand.

 

[CountyV8]

In Germany we can buy plug-in couplings with an E mark, which means they are permitted
or do you mean that the existing installation has no approval?

Sorry I didn't know that so it's approved in Germany? Ineos just told me its not.

 

[CountyV8]

You can fit it but as not approved for M1 vehicles could be a problem in the event of a claim or accident. For N1 vehicles you can use a 2” receiver hitch as far as i understand.

You can get marked 2" couplings in germany

 

[Hannes01]

only For example

Anhängerkupplung für 2"/50mm Multimount Vierkant-Aufnahme, bis 3.5 to

Abnehmbare Kugelkopf-Kupplung, für die Multimount-Aufnahme (2"/51 mm Vierkant) zahlreicher US-Fahrzeuge, wie z.B. Jeep Wrangler, mit E-Prüfzeichen,…

www.nakatanenga.de

 

[CountyV8]

only For example

Anhängerkupplung für 2"/50mm Multimount Vierkant-Aufnahme, bis 3.5 to

Abnehmbare Kugelkopf-Kupplung, für die Multimount-Aufnahme (2"/51 mm Vierkant) zahlreicher US-Fahrzeuge, wie z.B. Jeep Wrangler, mit E-Prüfzeichen,…

www.nakatanenga.de

Thanks Hannes will get one also found this Marked one

 

[Logsplitter]

Thanks Hannes will get one also found this Marked one

What do the D and the S ratings on the tow hook represent. Can you tow 3500kg with that ?