Stuck at Cape York

[Logsplitter]

And our experience in Botswana when the transfer box cable seized, was spot on to. We were in Touch with Ineos HQ in Cape Town via satellite phone and they organised everything and liaised with Ineos HQ in the U.K. to get us recovered and parts sent from Belgium at the time. Brilliant service.

 

[TheDocAUS]

INEOS seems to be getting this right - spares to remote locations. But overnight delivery is never an option when you are really remote.

 

[Logsplitter]

Certainly having the right people on your contact list is a great help. I made sure I had contacts at U.K. HQ and Ineos Southern Africa HQ in Cape Town and they fell over themselves to help me. Exactly why I purchased the vehicle

 

[MattA]

Great to see a very positive outcome, between this and the service manuals finally being available my decision to purchase is getting much closer than it was 12 months ago
It just comes down to GVM upgrades and it’s pretty much over line
Exciting times

 

[OkGo]

Certainly having the right people on your contact list is a great help. I made sure I had contacts at U.K. HQ and Ineos Southern Africa HQ in Cape Town and they fell over themselves to help me. Exactly why I purchased the vehicle

Whats a good way to get to know the right set of people ?

 

[RY-Journeyman]

Whats a good way to get to know the right set of people ?

Buy 'em a drink and ask for their phone number usually works a treat.

 

[NQ94]

New John Canny video. What went wrong? He says engine failure. With the amount of oil spilled has the engine legged it, hole in the sump?

View: https://youtu.be/BFJFFipKpVM?si=nAjCmHBKWUZ51yNn

 

[TheDocAUS]

New John Canny video. What went wrong? He says engine failure. With the amount of oil spilled has the engine legged it, hole in the sump?

View: https://youtu.be/BFJFFipKpVM?si=nAjCmHBKWUZ51yNn

The damaged car had bash plates fitted. Do these plates give protection to the oil sump? I could not work out what brand they are. The rear trialing arm guards are definitely Custom Offroad (I have them on my car).

 

[Tazzieman]

The rear trialing arm gaurds are definitely Custom Offroad (I have them on my car)

So do I. The trialing ones. It's how we pronounce trail in Australia after all

 

[TheDocAUS]

So do I. The trialing ones. It's how we pronounce trail in Australia after all

It took me ages to get use to Trialmaster, now I cannot get Trailing arm protectors right.

 

[CRH]

New John Canny video. What went wrong? He says engine failure. With the amount of oil spilled has the engine legged it, hole in the sump?

View: https://youtu.be/BFJFFipKpVM?si=nAjCmHBKWUZ51yNn

I know nothing, seriously, I am a complete dimwit. One of the water crossings was extremely high, this vehicle had no form of raised air intake, yes, I know the Ineos version isn't much use but we don't know if any have been adapted. Could an intake of water cause the engine to lose all the oil or does it just always come to a stop?

 

[Tazzieman]

It took me ages to get use to Trialmaster, now I cannot get Trailing arm protectors right.

Just get a pair of them Stucom Offraod ones!

 

[NQ94]

I know nothing, seriously, I am a complete dimwit. One of the water crossings was extremely high, this vehicle had no form of raised air intake, yes, I know the Ineos version isn't much use but we don't know if any have been adapted. Could an intake of water cause the engine to lose all the oil or does it just always come to a stop?

He looked like he was a fair distance from water. Most terrain induced hydrolocks occur in the water or very close to where the deep water was crossed. There is two outcomes, a slightly bent connecting rod to the piston where the engine will run rough and be smokey or the engine ingests that much water that can't be compressed and create new inspection ports as arms and legs exit the engine as well as lots of oil and noise.
It is possible to cross deep water with enough momentum and not have water entre the intake or the intake pipe work has a good pipe design that air can still pass with some water in the intake pipes but it is generally a very risky venture without a water tight snorkel.
There is a number of other reasons the engine can self hyrolock causing the internals to exit.
From his videos we don't really know if the engine has developed a major oil leak causing major engine damage unrelated to the terrain.

 

[Shoogs]

Good to see Ineos support, however after discovering my front driveshaft had a failed boot some 4 weeks ago after 56000kms and after informing the dealer of the issue with photos they said they had never heard of it… I have a Eibach lift and larger tyres, so was expecting it at some stage.
Whats interesting is that they actively promote the lift and install pre purchase… some 40-50 installs, including a well known YouTube star…
I am not asking for warranty etc… and will repair myself with a new Rzeppa etc… but they want the vehicle for inspection and diagnosis, at my expense and telling me it’s ok to drive it 130kms to the workshop… hardly responsible.

I know lots will say keep it standard blah blah, but fact is most will want to modify and a lift is a must for a vehicle to remain relevant for a lot of tracks and load carrying, towing, as per Cannys videos at Cape York most bogging were a lack of lift and larger tyres. Fact is track depth is getting deeper due to this.

Anyway my two cents, car still impressive, but will see what Ineos do when more and more shafts fail.

And feel free to move this to another topic…

 

[Steve.B]

The damaged car had bash plates fitted. Do these plates give protection to the oil sump? I could not work out what brand they are. The rear trialing arm gaurds are definitely Custom Offroad (I have them on my car).

Yes don't sweat it, they give much more protection than factory, but like safety glasses sometimes things get through on obscure angles.
It would not be difficult to work out where the massive oil leak was coming from with that amount of oil, I am guessing no one on the video was more than moderately mechanically minded, they had several hours to investigate while they were waiting for the flatbed truck.
It was the only vehicle in the convoy without a raised air intake, no one had a snorkel.
I will sea how easy or hard it is, or if it is even possible to disassemble and reassemble and seal the raised air intakes with Sikaflex and make it in to a snorkel very soon, but like NQ94 said it won't be a thrown rod from compression lock.
I put 2 small holes in a long range fuel tank on the old telegraph track in 1996, one on the bottom with a dent, and one on the back where you would think it was almost impossible also with a dent.

 

[Tazzieman]

Rocks break things. I speculate a hard oil line was hit and with subsequent flex over corrugations , eventually split.
That said , just a theory to add to the dozens out there!