The amount of content that is just getting bogged, endless winching breaking things and fooling like 15 year olds just adds to the ennui.Those guys were fun to watch, but they have become and endless commercial endorsement…
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The amount of content that is just getting bogged, endless winching breaking things and fooling like 15 year olds just adds to the ennui.Those guys were fun to watch, but they have become and endless commercial endorsement…
Very much the theme of 24/7 4WD and All for Adventure.The amount of content that is just getting bogged, endless winching breaking things and fooling like 15 year olds just adds to the ennui.
Has to be expected, there would be just as many other 4x4 brand owners giving him negative comments. As a Land Cruiser 70 owner he would be use to the flack from other 4x4 brand owners.
Well the smartassed comment about his winch recovery video forced me to actually go watch it. Who knew that the IG is the only one with actual load rated recovery points.
What ratings were they?Well the smartassed comment about his winch recovery video forced me to actually go watch it. Who knew that the IG is the only one with actual load rated recovery points.
Robert Pepper in this article states:What ratings were they?
In short, 4,000kg front, 3,500kg rear.The vehicle has, and massive kudos to INEOS here, two recovery points at the front and two at the rear, rated for 4000kg and 3500kg respectively. Oddly, the front ones don’t fully accept a 4.75t AS2741 shackle unless the pin is inserted from below, an oversight in my view, but otherwise all four are well-placed.
There is a new video out by sidetracked worth watching if you google "sidetracked Ineos grenadier" .
They are Australian, but spent a week in Africa testing a Grenadier.
They get itThere is a new video out by sidetracked worth watching if you google "sidetracked Ineos grenadier" .
They are Australian, but spent a week in Africa testing a Grenadier.
Please explain because I am stupid/completely new to proper 4x4. Is the rating per recovery point or both, would using both increase the rating. Are they any lower/higher/same as the ones that get added by aftermarket companies on on things like a Jeep or Prado Landcruiser. How do you decide if something is too heavy, vehicle is under the weight but bogged down.
The recovery points are rated as a pair with a bridal strap, and are up to the task if used correctly.Please explain because I am stupid/completely new to proper 4x4. Is the rating per recovery point or both, would using both increase the rating. Are they any lower/higher/same as the ones that get added by aftermarket companies on on things like a Jeep or Prado Landcruiser. How do you decide if something is too heavy, vehicle is under the weight but bogged down.
How do I decide what shackles, straps and ropes to use?
Sorry for all the questions, I had a light weight tow rope from a previous vehicle but when I tried dragging a large Mercedes estate that had got grounded it started to fray so had to leave it to the farmer to go back home for better ropes. I have now got rope and straps that are excess of 12t, if i remember rightly. The soft shackles are less i think.
Good question, not enough people understand recovery rigging and the forces involved. Robert Pepper has some earlier videos explaining recoveries.Please explain because I am stupid/completely new to proper 4x4. Is the rating per recovery point or both, would using both increase the rating. Are they any lower/higher/same as the ones that get added by aftermarket companies on on things like a Jeep or Prado Landcruiser. How do you decide if something is too heavy, vehicle is under the weight but bogged down.
How do I decide what shackles, straps and ropes to use?
Sorry for all the questions, I had a light weight tow rope from a previous vehicle but when I tried dragging a large Mercedes estate that had got grounded it started to fray so had to leave it to the farmer to go back home for better ropes. I have now got rope and straps that are excess of 12t, if i remember rightly. The soft shackles are less i think.
If you are part of any recovery process your Grenadier is set up for it.How do I decide what shackles, straps and ropes to use?
Thanks, i would never buy direct from the Chinese and worry about anything from Ebay or Amazon to be of the same quality. I have tried to gain as much knowledge as possible but as you have said, there are some many different opinions.If you are part of any recovery process your Grenadier is set up for it.
The recovery vehicle may not be. If they get damaged it's on them ; don't even imagine the drama if someone gets i jured/ killed.
Lots of info out there to read/ watch. Robert Pepoer has probably the best stuff out there. Search his site using recovery , shackles, winching etc as search terms.
To be properly equipped you need properly rated ropes and nowadays, soft shackles. The latter are not suitable for sharp towing eyes etc often supplied by the aftermarket. And standard metal ones, though very strong can be lethal...if connected to the wrong/ unrated place on the other vehicle.
In general to feel you can cover most situations you need ropes and shackles rated at 11000kg max breaking strength or higher.
I carry at least 3 soft shackles, 2 steel ones, winch pulley, a bridle rope , tree trunk protector, rope blanket and winch extension rope as I have a winch.
And recovery boards.
I don't like kinetic recovery straps or even kinetic recoveries unless everything else has failed.
It's a large topic , with many opinions and quite a few options.Don't buy anything from Temu or a non 4x4 recovery specialist. And call the pros if any situation seems sketchy!
Where did you get this information?The recovery points are rated as a pair with a bridal strap, and are up to the task if used correctly.
In the manualWhere did you get this information?
For example:G
Good question, not enough people understand recovery rigging and the forces involved. Robert Pepper has some earlier videos explaining recoveries.
I did this table for winching, but it shows the variation in force depending on slope and surface.You can pull the Grenadier off a single recovery point. But the force required varies hugely with the situation.
@AWo ages ago posted a generic table of force variations eg with grass, mud , slope etc and I recall Robert Pepper also discussing the physics.