OEM Rear fog lights location & retrofit?

[mechdriver]

Where are the OEM rear fog lights fitted? Can’t seem to find a good picture or video showing them.

Also, and it sounds silly in a car with so many optional switches, but has anyone thought about retrofitting the OEM rear fog lights to a car that was not equipped with them originally? Including replacing the LH stalk with one with the built in button?

Maybe I’m just button/switch obsessed but I thought I’d ask…

 

[Ovrland Bill]

I am not aware of any OEM Rear Fog Lights, but here is what I have done with aftermarket Baja Designs units (which I also switch on in very dusty trail conditions to function as “chase lights”).

 

[Jeremy996]

I'm in the UK, so I have a European car with fog lights and the switch on the indicator stalk.

There are the standard night rear lights:

Here is the night lights and fog lights together!

So, as the fog light are integral to the rear light cluster, it would be a good idea to look at the plugs and pinouts on the rear light cluster, as it is vaguely possible they are the same lights as mine!

I have just looked in the parts book and the part numbers are different UK/EUROPE vs USA

 

[Krabby]

I'm in the UK, so I have a European car with fog lights and the switch on the indicator stalk.
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There are the standard night rear lights:
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Here is the night lights and fog lights together!
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So, as the fog light are integral to the rear light cluster, it would be a good idea to look at the plugs and pinouts on the rear light cluster, as it is probable they are the same lights as mine!

I'd bet without software access they wouldn't work here. Hopefully someone will eventually break the code and give us access to stuff. I had a F150 Raptor and the whole Ford software system has been broken down and from a forum I learned how to reprogram all kinds of stuff.

 

[mechdriver]

I'm in the UK, so I have a European car with fog lights and the switch on the indicator stalk.
View attachment 7911459
There are the standard night rear lights:
View attachment 7911460
Here is the night lights and fog lights together!
View attachment 7911461

So, as the fog light are integral to the rear light cluster, it would be a good idea to look at the plugs and pinouts on the rear light cluster, as it is vaguely possible they are the same lights as mine!

I have just looked in the parts book and the part numbers are different UK/EUROPE vs USA

Thanks for sharing!

 

[mechdriver]

So it looks like you’d need to replace the rear lights and the stalk and if it doesn’t auto-magically work it would need some software approval.

 

[landmannnn]

It seems strange than IA decided not to fit rear fogs in the US. It is allowed (not mandatory as in Europe) and it meant that they had to have developed different versions of the stalk and rear lights.

 

[ECrider]

Rear fog lights - invaluable imo. Probably count on two hands the number of times I've used them in the last couple of decades but when you are in a pea soupper (especially in bright sun!) they must save many accidents.

 

[CountyV8]

Interestingly last Sunday I had to go out in the fog at 8 AM nearly everyone in this pea soup didn't have any fog lights on or head lights! just the DRL's which in the UK only make the front lights illuminate. Just because your fancy LCL dash illuminate doesn't mean your lights are on.Is it because people rely on the auto on or they didn't RTFM?????

 

[Jeremy996]

Almost nobody RTFM!
Fog lights are always an issue as either they are on when they should not be or off when they should be on. I don't use automatic lights as I do not trust any of them to be right.

I did RTFM, but then I am a compliance officer in financial services, so rules and manuals are my thing!

 

[landmannnn]

Rear fog lights - invaluable imo. Probably count on two hands the number of times I've used them in the last couple of decades but when you are in a pea soupper (especially in bright sun!) they must save many accidents.

I don't recall ever having used them.
I've also never found front fog lights useful at all, does the Grenadier even have them? It never occurred to me to look.

 

[ECrider]

I don't recall ever having used them.
I've also never found front fog lights useful at all, does the Grenadier even have them? It never occurred to me to look.

no front fogs. I find them useful to light up the verges/pot holes on country roads. They have to be angled correctly to start with of course.

 

[CountyV8]

Almost nobody RTFM!
Fog lights are always an issue as either they are on when they should not be or off when they should be on. I don't use automatic lights as I do not trust any of them to be right.

I did RTFM, but then I am a compliance officer in financial services, so rules and manuals are my thing!

Exactly Jeremy I meant rear fog lights but front fog lights are just as bad and I always read the manual