That is exactly my point, look how Lucid decided to work with customer feedback and show transparency. Also the Toyota thing is my point as well, how can you compare such a long time company to Ineos??? It doesn't make sense too me.
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That is exactly my point, look how Lucid decided to work with customer feedback and show transparency. Also the Toyota thing is my point as well, how can you compare such a long time company to Ineos??? It doesn't make sense too me.
I'm also in software also and this drives me nuts. I run into all the time - saving a buck here today I see costing a lot more down the road. A LOT more. Exactly the same thing here.
See post #841 on the previous page
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joejet 1989 days
Mohs9 1989 days
MattG 1989 days
Jonnieblaze 1950 days
TJD 1985 days
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douggie 1995 days
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Phud 1996 days
Bluesmurf 2003 days
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Glen 2007 days
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Adam 2007 days
snowball 2009 days
Baron van T 2009 days
Tomdoc 2016 days
gratefuldiver 2021 days
nzmark 2022 days
Silverjay 2022 days
Sully 2023 days
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Chris Hilton 2024 days
Tony H 2025 days
nuclearbeef 2026 days
SaudiGR 2026 days
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Landmannn 2044 days
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acky 2048 days
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The Angler 2058 days
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KristinaM 2062 days
SD Jeff 2063 days
Carolinaride 2064 days
Keato 2069 days
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bemax 2078 days
255/85 2080 days
HessenHUnter 2081 days
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MurphyMurph 2085 days
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Barney 2091 days
LeeroyJ 2093
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DrewB 2096 days
Dschubba 2097 days
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Mazeman 2107 days
Jork 2113 days
Zenadier 2114 days
KlasN 2123 days
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Brock63 2124 days
Tazzieman 2137 days
skinny tom 2139 days
Tenac loaner 2139 days
Phobiac 2141 days
ChrisRay 2141
archerwolf 2146 days
pipo 2149 days
Skymark 2156 days
ADVAW8S 2159 days
Ever Pragmatic 2141 days
Grenni-Tom 2153 days
VTTrialmaster 2161 days
Bayford 2162 days
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Emil 2190 days
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bigleonski 2250 days
Ron50 2253 days
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Bobineos 2188 days
Mulekick406 2297 days
Clark Kent 2367 days
tnkatoy 2362 days
C-Mack 2458 days
Jorda 2503 days
DeepCJ7 2651 days
mirwantandyo 2668 days
rwhitinger 6410 days
SUMMARY
193 members and an additional 3 members with no alert (4 if you include some chap in Townsville). Tally stops at 200, only 7 spaces left.
No change to first or last place. A photo is needed if you are claiming a new low or new high.
DO NOTHING FOR THE MOMENT
* Wednesday's unpaid expendable gofer.
View: https://youtu.be/F9CdkjLrEt8
Tally closes at 200
When the Tally hits 200, the updates will stop.
13 to go, the date Wednesday was born, Friday the 13th. Anyone complaining they missed out after 200, will get a Wednesday quip - none of which are nice.
When talking about her brother Pugsley, she said:
My vehicle has been in a service dept waiting on warranty parts since before the New Year glitch...so hopefully this week when I have it back all will be righted. Cheers and Happy New Year to you and all GrenadiersTALLY (updated and complied by the unpaid expendable gofer*)
Krabby 1492 days
ResponsiblyReckless 1625 days
Chook 1840 days
anti 1841 days
Itsdchz 1841 days, first US car with the pox
Dlucky 1851 days
BrandonADV 1852 days
TahoeGren 1852 days
Rocky 1856 days
Bjoern 1864 days
Znarfgh 1864 days
PB60 1865 days
Pat-Ard 1868 days
Rok Dr 1869 days
Tx246 1872 days
WanderingSniper 1872 days
Malkay 1875 days
Sonoranrover 1875 days
linksk9rig 1877 day
BluDawg 1879 days
Shopkeep 1879 days
rabia 1879 days
XxShantilisxX 1880 days
mji111 1880 days
PNW IG 1881 days
csjeeper 1884 days
donnygreygrenadier 1885
Michael H 1889 days
Guy 1890 days
Robt 1890 days
Chem409 1890 days
Blackwolf 1891 days
Duncan McDonald 1892 days
Deon 1893 days
joejet 1894 days
grnamin 1897 days
Laxdaddy2 1899 days
TimeosYoc 1899 days
Korg 1899 days
LPT FSJ 1900 days
GrenADV 1901 days
Green Gren 1903 days
stefan.schaefer.de 1906 days
Grumpy 1906 days
crashnburn 1908 days
HeavyFoot 1915 days
pedrogb 1915 days
Tom Ireland 1916 days
FlyersFan76 1917 days
Jax F1 Dave 1917 days
Old Salt 1919 days
Woody 1919 days
UncleBuck 1924 days
Force Pro 1924 days
Voader O 1925 days
OGrid 1927 days
singlefin 1927 days
Green 1928 days
DrahthaarGuide 1929 days
WhiteBear 1931 days, first car outside ANZ
ecohen2 1932 days
oilpresuure 1933 days
Forefun 1933 days
Happyoldgit 1933 days
Leonidas 1935 days
DaveB 1935 days
OkGo 1937 days
prezioson 1940 days
NixGrenadier 1940 days
Rupert 1941 days
Gerrymac 1944 days
Peterr's neighour 1944 days
ddv 1945 days (Aug 2023)
Tergosa 1946 days
Rudilf 1948 days
Johnb 1950 days
Fred 1950 days
pmatusov 1953 days
Antgil 1953 days
TheBMcCann 1953 days
Camilondo 1953 days
nr002 1954 days
Knoe 1955 days
rickydoc 1961 days
Peterr 1961 days
IG Pop 1967 days
Jeremy966 1967 days
Ex-defender driver 1968 days
TheDocAUS 1968 days (Feb 2024)
shekesc 1969 days
SilverNZ 1971 days
Joe B 1971 days
Denis M 1975 days
Augustin 1979 days
Telliottaus 1980 days
rwhitinger's better half 1981 days
Zimm 1982 days
OZZA 1987 days
joejet 1989 days
Mohs9 1989 days
MattG 1989 days
Jonnieblaze 1950 days
TJD 1985 days
Phred 1994 days
douggie 1995 days
Isle of Wight Paul 1996 days
Phud 1996 days
Bluesmurf 2003 days
Des Mattes 2003 days
Glen 2007 days
Badger4x4 2007 days
Adam 2007 days
snowball 2009 days
Baron van T 2009 days
Tomdoc 2016 days
gratefuldiver 2021 days
nzmark 2022 days
Silverjay 2022 days
Sully 2023 days
BEM-S4 2024 days
theox 2024 days
Chris Hilton 2024 days
Tony H 2025 days
nuclearbeef 2026 days
SaudiGR 2026 days
FlyersFan76 2032
Sylvan 2032 days
Landmannn 2044 days
Oscar786 2045 days
acky 2048 days
n545ca 2050 days
Logsplitter 2051 days
Commodore 2057 days
NeoGTi 2057 days
The Angler 2058 days
HelgeL 2059 days
Greasemonkey 2059 days
KristinaM 2062 days
SD Jeff 2063 days
Carolinaride 2064 days
Keato 2069 days
Lollo050968 2074 days
bemax 2078 days
255/85 2080 days
HessenHUnter 2081 days
Citori21 2081 days
bakepl 2082 days
MurphyMurph 2085 days
McPharmerII 2088 days
Barney 2091 days
LeeroyJ 2093
Wile E Coyote 2095 days
DrewB 2096 days
Dschubba 2097 days
Stu Barnes 2097 days
Manuel4x4 2106 days
Mazeman 2107 days
Jork 2113 days
Zenadier 2114 days
KlasN 2123 days
Wueste 2123 days
Brock63 2124 days
Tazzieman 2137 days
skinny tom 2139 days
Tenac loaner 2139 days
Phobiac 2141 days
ChrisRay 2141
archerwolf 2146 days
pipo 2149 days
Skymark 2156 days
ADVAW8S 2159 days
Ever Pragmatic 2141 days
Grenni-Tom 2153 days
VTTrialmaster 2161 days
Bayford 2162 days
StKesseler 2171
slukell 2175 days
Island Falconer 2178 days
wolftimj 2183 days
Emil 2190 days
emax 2233 days
bigleonski 2250 days
Ron50 2253 days
Torc Steel 2277 days
Bobineos 2188 days
Mulekick406 2297 days
Clark Kent 2367 days
tnkatoy 2362 days
C-Mack 2458 days
Jorda 2503 days
DeepCJ7 2651 days
mirwantandyo 2668 days
rwhitinger 6410 days
SUMMARY
193 members and an additional 3 members with no alert (4 if you include some chap in Townsville). Tally stops at 200, only 7 spaces left.
No change to first or last place. A photo is needed if you are claiming a new low or new high.
DO NOTHING FOR THE MOMENT
* Wednesday's unpaid expendable gofer.
View: https://youtu.be/F9CdkjLrEt8
Tally closes at 200
When the Tally hits 200, the updates will stop.
13 to go, the date Wednesday was born, Friday the 13th. Anyone complaining they missed out after 200, will get a Wednesday quip - none of which are nice.
When talking about her brother Pugsley, she said:
I was going to post this same comment. The altimeter is based on barometric pressure. There is a standard pressure for sea level but depending on current weather conditions the actual pressure can be higher than the sea level standard and when this happens the elevation can read negative. In fact the displayed elevation will change from day to day or even hour to hour because the barometric pressure at any given location is changing continuously. It is not a bug it is just how pressure based altimeters work. And it is not like the altimeter is a safety requirement in the Grenadier, it doesn't mater one iota if it is off by 100ft or more. The reading is relative and completely sufficient for land based travel. Airplanes obviously need a higher level of accuracy.
The altimeter has been confirmed by Ineos technical staff to me numerous times to be GPS based, and the "calibration" (reset) is to keep it in an area that it doesn't get GPS signal for some time
Even if it is GPS based the relative nature of accuracy is the same. It is a reference not an absolute measure as is needed for aircraft. For land based automotive use +-50 ft is more than enough resolution and even +- 100ft is not really an issue.
Yes! 1000%Fair enough, and I agree that the engines do seem to just keep running despite the numerous glitches that keep cropping up (thank you BMW).
This is the latest (and probably not the last) in a long list of software issues, resulting from a complete lack of proactive responsiveness from Ineos to fix the software in the first place.
Right from the start it was evident that the software is riddled with errors (it’s more like a beta version with testing code, than an actual final version). Instead of fixing it, Ineos just band-aided symptoms, which only ends up causing more problems.
It’s these ongoing preventable issues, resulting from the lack of proactivity from Ineos, that’s what the fuss is all about.
I don’t think any early adopter expected the car to be perfect out of the box, teething issues were anticipated - BUT, what we also expected is that Ineos would be there to provide support, communication and work with us to resolve problems. The general consensus is that Ineos Automotive has failed miserably on all counts, which is the biggest broken promise of all (not that Ineos seems to care).
The Grenadier is already a great 4x4, but the frustration is that we can all see just how good it could be if Ineos actually fixed the issues that are holding it back. It’s really annoying, because it shouldn’t be this hard, Ineos just doesn’t seem to be listening.
Just as an aside and an example of how these sorts of ongoing issues are impacting the Ineos product, my wife has said definite NO to the Fusilier, she simply doesn’t have confidence in Ineos, and I can’t argue with her, because she’s not wrong (apart from the fact that she’s always right anyway
Or visit Tasmania
Sometimes even Garmins struggle. 
