Front Drive Shaft Update

[Commodore]

I notice the Ranger has an external boot.

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Would this be more durable?

There must have some reason that Ford decided to do it differently.

Edit, it had momentarily escaped me that the Ranger and its derivatives have independent front suspension.. So the CV joints aren't doing much.

What you are looking at is a plunge style CV. Notice how deep the cup is at the end. It will be run at the pinion end so the grease doesn’t run out of the CV joint.

 

[[ Adam ]]

Possibly broken driveshaft induced fire reported. This guy had the Owl 4.5 inch lift

https://www.reddit.com/r/ineosgrenadier/comments/1psti6f/fire

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/ineosgrenadier/comments/1psti6f/fire/

 

[Logsplitter]

Possibly broken driveshaft induced fire reported. This guy had the Owl 4.5 inch lift

https://www.reddit.com/r/ineosgrenadier/comments/1psti6f/fire

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/ineosgrenadier/comments/1psti6f/fire/

4.5” lift . If it is the prop it’s no wonder.

 

[Shopkeep]

4.5” lift . If it is the prop it’s no wonder.

That's not a lift. That's a lift!

 

[Krabby]

That's not a lift. That's a lift!

 

[Tazzieman]

That's not a lift. That's a lift!

Clayton's portal axle ;<)

 

[Mountain4x4]

That is what mine looked like, molten lava. I was surprised nothing caught fire or the seals in the tcase were not destroyed. That Owl lift is awesome, cant wait to install one they designed some amazing stuff.

 

[Shoogs]

If that’s 4.5 inches I feel a lot better about myself…

 

[outono]

I dont believe the OP confirmed it was 4.5", he just said he had an Owl lift. It could be 2.5", which is also a common height for failures.

 

[Mountain4x4]

Its 4.5" for 37s.

 

[Tenac]

If I read that reddit post correctly sounds like the OP bought it used with the lift already on it??

 

[Ovrland Bill]

Possibly broken driveshaft induced fire reported. This guy had the Owl 4.5 inch lift

https://www.reddit.com/r/ineosgrenadier/comments/1psti6f/fire

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/ineosgrenadier/comments/1psti6f/fire/

“Another revolting development” (from the old Life of Riley TV Show)

 

[[ Adam ]]

I dont believe the OP confirmed it was 4.5", he just said he had an Owl lift. It could be 2.5", which is also a common height for failures.

He confirmed 4 inch a few hours ago. I was premature in citing it, it was not confirmed when I posted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ineosgrenadier/s/ZXP8GjciaY

 

[outono]

He confirmed 4 inch a few hours ago. I was premature in citing it, it was not confirmed when I posted.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ineosgrenadier/s/ZXP8GjciaY

Just saw that too. Yikes.

I just got a quote from Sierra Ineos for a new driveshaft. $2,074 installed. $1,350 for the part alone. I opted to just get the part and will install myself given the labor costs are outrageous.

 

[[ Adam ]]

Just saw that too. Yikes.

I just got a quote from Sierra Ineos for a new driveshaft. $2,074 installed. $1,350 for the part alone. I opted to just get the part and will install myself given the labor costs are outrageous.

Be sure to get replacement bolts there one time use torque to yield, dealers should be able to give you the details.

 

[Clark Kent]

Be sure to get replacement bolts there one time use torque to yield, dealers should be able to give you the details.

Procedure here.

Post in thread 'Front Drive Shaft Update' https://www.theineosforum.com/threads/front-drive-shaft-update.12418127/post-1333365566

 

[hon1nbo]

Possibly broken driveshaft induced fire reported. This guy had the Owl 4.5 inch lift

https://www.reddit.com/r/ineosgrenadier/comments/1psti6f/fire

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/ineosgrenadier/comments/1psti6f/fire/

Hi all, I'm the owner in that thread. I usually use Reddit because this site isn't very disability friendly and the ads are so intrusive. Made an account to give an update here.

Yes, 4" lift from Owl. Was sold to me already on the vehicle by the Ineos dealer in Seattle. It was a used vehicle, about 3200 miles when I bought it and I was a little past mile 7,000 when this happened. Have been on a road trip to Dallas for the past few days.

Went to the tow yard today and got photos for insurance fire claim; found the drive shaft busted open which confirmed a lot of what I'd been being told in threads today.

All the wiring under the carriage is completely toasted so it's not a pure mechanical repair. No clue how much fire and water got into the cases either as FD had to use the hoses.

The flames were surprisingly significant for this kind of failure. Dash cam I have only covers front/back, not sides, but you can see the reflections of the flames around the passenger side door in the windshield glass. Glad I had a Halotron extinguisher with me to get it subdued before it spread farther until FD showed up.

 

[Mountain4x4]

Wow thanks for jumping in. While mine did not start a fire, I was completely shocked to see literally molten red hot metal when I pulled over. That is a crazy amount of heat. Yet another reason these need recalled.

 

[Agile1]

Hi all, I'm the owner in that thread. I usually use Reddit because this site isn't very disability friendly and the ads are so intrusive. Made an account to give an update here.

Yes, 4" lift from Owl. Was sold to me already on the vehicle by the Ineos dealer in Seattle. It was a used vehicle, about 3200 miles when I bought it and I was a little past mile 7,000 when this happened. Have been on a road trip to Dallas for the past few days.

Went to the tow yard today and got photos for insurance fire claim; found the drive shaft busted open which confirmed a lot of what I'd been being told in threads today.

All the wiring under the carriage is completely toasted so it's not a pure mechanical repair. No clue how much fire and water got into the cases either as FD had to use the hoses.

The flames were surprisingly significant for this kind of failure. Dash cam I have only covers front/back, not sides, but you can see the reflections of the flames around the passenger side door in the windshield glass. Glad I had a Halotron extinguisher with me to get it subdued before it spread farther until FD showed up.

What an unfortunate ordeal, let me know if you need any help.

 

[hon1nbo]

Some photos. Getting them at the tow yard wasn't ideal and my phone can didn't like trying to focus on stuff

But photos of the driveshaft, wiring. Etc. and one from the dash cam where you can see the passenger flames reflecting in the glass a bit.

These shaft failures are no joke. It's also amazing how much that electrical wire conductor elongated under heat.

@Agile1 much appreciated but not sure what's even feasible right now.