Front Drive Shaft Update

[jvkintheusa]

All I can do is but a few replacement CVs and monitor the ones that are on there for any tears.

 

[jvkintheusa]

Just wanted to throw this out there and see what y'all are thinking: since I really only need four by four when I am going off road, could I just remove the front drive shaft, keep the center diff locked and attach it when I am going out on a off-road trip?

 

[Dokatd]

Just wanted to throw this out there and see what y'all are thinking: since I really only need four by four when I am going off road, could I just remove the front drive shaft, keep the center diff locked and attach it when I am going out on a off-road trip?

You will cause significant wear to your transfer case and potentially cause failure of your rear differential. I stress potentially as the diff should be more than fine, but you are adding a lot of extra stress and I am not sure yet how robust these axle truly are.

 

[LeftCoastOverland]

Yeah speaking with my maintenance manager yesterday the Ineos protocol now is to remove (or change) the O-ring from the breather to ensure pressure equalization.
Probably just worth it to add an extended breather kit.

I picked up my truck today, and had the details wrong, They Added an O-Ring, not removed, and cleaned up the breathers to allow for pressure equalization. Hopefully it helps, and stays clean.

 

[ADVAW8S]

Coming in hot off of Facebook. Drive shaft broke for guys as they are in line to board a ferry. . Back on road in 22 hours.

POV: you break down 4 hours before boarding the Spirit of Tassie What could’ve been a holiday nightmare turned into one of the best customer service experiences we’ve ever had. INEOS honestly saved our Christmas. Forever grateful to the team who mad

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[Clark Kent]

Coming in hot off of Facebook. Drive shaft broke for guys as they are in line to board a ferry. . Back on road in 22 hours.

POV: you break down 4 hours before boarding the Spirit of Tassie What could’ve been a holiday nightmare turned into one of the best customer service experiences we’ve ever had. INEOS honestly saved our Christmas. Forever grateful to the team who mad

POV: you break down 4 hours before boarding the Spirit of Tassie What could’ve been a holiday nightmare turned into one of the best customer service experiences we’ve ever had. INEOS honestly saved...

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A much better story than Cannygate.
It sounds like Justin Hocevar himself did the run to the ferry port at Geelong to drop off the driveshaft. There wouldn't be too many recognisable 'big dogs' called Justin working at IA HQ in Melbourne

 

[Shoogs]

Planning a 3 week trip to the Kimberley’s mid year, quite remote… which vehicle should I take…

Leaning towards my 30 year old Defender…

 

[SilverNZ]

A much better story than Cannygate.
It sounds like Justin Hocevar himself did the run to the ferry port at Geelong to drop off the driveshaft. There wouldn't be too many recognisable 'big dogs' called Justin working at IA HQ in Melbourne

If this is Justin Hocevar then I'm mightily impressed...what a great attitude. From what I've seen of Justin in the media, he comes across as a no-nonsense, customer focussed, get the job done sort of guy. Refreshing to see this in any business these days.

 

[Tazzieman]

Coming in hot off of Facebook. Drive shaft broke for guys as they are in line to board a ferry. . Back on road in 22 hours.

POV: you break down 4 hours before boarding the Spirit of Tassie What could’ve been a holiday nightmare turned into one of the best customer service experiences we’ve ever had. INEOS honestly saved our Christmas. Forever grateful to the team who mad

POV: you break down 4 hours before boarding the Spirit of Tassie What could’ve been a holiday nightmare turned into one of the best customer service experiences we’ve ever had. INEOS honestly saved...

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Their propshaft has had some use ( see quote); he probably should haved checked it before the trip. Btw , Tassie weather over the next week is pretty ordinary, but I'll take that over 35-40C that will strip the skin of the mainlanders!

" we have done 73,000km of driving in the last year all around Australia doing some of the worst roads there are. I have put it down to bad luck and heavy relentless use"

 

[Rok_Dr]

Planning a 3 week trip to the Kimberley’s mid year, quite remote… which vehicle should I take…

Leaning towards my 30 year old Defender…

I’m also planning to spend a month in the Kimberley from late July next year. I’ll get an intermediate service completed before I leave Perth which will include a good check over underneath. As my car is totally standard suspension and wheel wise, I’m not expecting any major dramas plus I’ll be travelling with friends so if anything goes pear-shaped, I’ll have support.

Cheers
Steve

 

[CRH]

How many spares would you need to carry for an old Landrover compared to a Grenadier.
Old car more simple to repair anyway, new car more comfortable especially with aircon.
Is the old vehicle more likely to break as it's old, no matter how well you service, unless it's a nut and bolt rebuild with all new parts, it's still old.
I'm not defending one or the other, just asking the question.

 

[Logsplitter]

How many spares would you need to carry for an old Landrover compared to a Grenadier.
Old car more simple to repair anyway, new car more comfortable especially with aircon.
Is the old vehicle more likely to break as it's old, no matter how well you service, unless it's a nut and bolt rebuild with all new parts, it's still old.
I'm not defending one or the other, just asking the question.

It’s normally the spares you don’t take that you’ll need. Some materials for a bush fix is what I take. Plus some spare fluids, filters , brake pads etc.

 

[Shoogs]

How many spares would you need to carry for an old Landrover compared to a Grenadier.
Old car more simple to repair anyway, new car more comfortable especially with aircon.
Is the old vehicle more likely to break as it's old, no matter how well you service, unless it's a nut and bolt rebuild with all new parts, it's still old.
I'm not defending one or the other, just asking the question.

After driving it all over Southern and Eastern Africa and Western Australia including a run down the CSR, I have never had to carry a spare driveshaft… sure the odd Uni, some grease, a bag of odds and ends but zero electrical issues and no dirty fuel problems that plague newer diesels. Oh and a shock absorber once that was to short… my bad.

It is somewhat a rhetorical question to myself, only thing in 60,000kms of Ineos ownership is the driveshaft, twice…and I have fixed that myself due to not having Justin Hovecar 20kms away, or a instagram/youtube channel, but I know I can fix a Defender…

 

[OkGo]

Depends a lot on where you are going, and what sort of support you can hope you lean on when you are there.

A few bodge-kit kinds of things, basic tools, docs, fluids, a few known issue parts, and the odd filter. I try and think of it as what I can do myself, what I can do with some help, what I can enable someone competent to do, and what a rescue home might look like.

Not many places left in the world when you are packing am alternator and brake master cylinders anymore.

 

[CRH]

After driving it all over Southern and Eastern Africa and Western Australia including a run down the CSR, I have never had to carry a spare driveshaft… sure the odd Uni, some grease, a bag of odds and ends but zero electrical issues and no dirty fuel problems that plague newer diesels.

Is the main issue that new vehicles just aren't designed for this kind of journey without more backup, I am not denying the driveshaft.
As far as I understand, an older vehicle may have problems but are fixable on the side of the road by most with a small amount of understanding. A modern vehicle requires much more support & safety nets. I used to joke that our '67 vehicle was more reliable than any of the newer ones, we had 3 modern off the road at one point which included a 5 day old car. In 14 years of owning the '67 it only broke down after we first purchased as the dynamo wasn't charging the battery.
If you have owned the old vehicle from new or nearly, you know it's history good or bad. If you bought it old it has problems you don't know about and what kind of inbuilt bodges were done to keep it going.
It seems with new vehicles that the only way to have a reliable one is to keep changing it and even then it's a lottery. A friends company BMW, 3yrs old, had to have large amounts of suspension replaced plus other problems, but it's electric so it's his own fault

 

[SilverNZ]

After driving it all over Southern and Eastern Africa and Western Australia including a run down the CSR, I have never had to carry a spare driveshaft… sure the odd Uni, some grease, a bag of odds and ends but zero electrical issues and no dirty fuel problems that plague newer diesels. Oh and a shock absorber once that was to short… my bad.

It is somewhat a rhetorical question to myself, only thing in 60,000kms of Ineos ownership is the driveshaft, twice…and I have fixed that myself due to not having Justin Hovecar 20kms away, or a instagram/youtube channel, but I know I can fix a Defender…

I've been running various LR Series 88, 109, Defender 110 (Puma) up and down our small country for a few decades. The Puma nearly always had around 2-3 tonnes of boat hanging off the back. I had some major failures in the Series LRs but always seemed to make it home. One time I knocked the oil pump of the LD28 in the 109 on a rock during a river crossing and bent it silly but amazingly had seen just the right bolt to fix it sitting in the grassy strip in the middle of the track while going for a walk. I back tracked and amazingly found it - that was dumb luck. However, modern vehicles seem to be different. The Puma broke two intermediate shafts (one time on a blind corner with the boat on the back...yikes) and also blew a turbo...all three times needed recovery.

I never expected Toyota Corolla reliability because I knew I was pushing things. Those Land Rovers all earned their stripes. Much like the guy in Geelong, if you feel like you've been pushing your luck, when a failure happens you look back on what you did and accept that's how it goes.

So, in answer to your question, you just don't know what's going to break. You can't carry spares for every possible event. I don't think the Grenadier is any worse than other vehicles...

...but to be honest, it would be nice to get that front driveshaft properly sorted.

 

[Shoogs]

I’m also planning to spend a month in the Kimberley from late July next year. I’ll get an intermediate service completed before I leave Perth which will include a good check over underneath. As my car is totally standard suspension and wheel wise, I’m not expecting any major dramas plus I’ll be travelling with friends so if anything goes pear-shaped, I’ll have support.

Cheers
Steve

I am not sure exactly when or where, I have some fortunate friends who have access to some very remote places that are not open to most.

 

[Tom109]

So, in answer to your question, you just don't know what's going to break. You can't carry spares for every possible event. I don't think the Grenadier is any worse than other vehicles...

Except the front drive shaft.