General Diesel or Petrol

[DaveB]

They should write, who calls for that. Battery makers? Electricity companies ...?

The best is this:

An artist's impression of Maersk's first methanol-powered container ship, due to start service in mid-2023.

At a first glance this looks like a ship having loaded nothing other than batteries or methanol tanks to get over the ocean.

Maybe someone needs to show them where lots of the cobalt and lithium comes from to make the batteries

 

[DaveB]

While ever people are eating fried food, fish & chips & KFC I will be fine with my diesel Grenadier
Might look these guys up

 

[Max]

I think the chip oil wins.

 

[PanoramaJJ]

I choose the Diesel. Why?
Because my girl friend said:
"In an offroad car I want to have a Diesel Engine."
Maybe because our old Toyota uses a 4.2l Diesel - it is slow and it is noisy ... oh yes! A nice sound, like an old truck...

 

[stickshifter]

Maybe someone needs to show them where lots of the cobalt and lithium comes from to make the batteries
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Hey Dave - do you know the source for this photo? Thanks!

 

[DaveB]

Hey Dave - do you know the source for this photo? Thanks!

I think it was the Chronicle newspaper

 

[Max]

There is a thread where we talk about the calming of a Diesel engine...the diesel engine is a living breathing machine with attitude to boot...love them...my Grenadier is named after it's heart...B57

 

[Davman]

Still want an electric car?

From the Australian public broadcaster - ABC

 

[emax]

B57. With a 'B' like Bravo, which is the spelling equivalent of the German 'Bertha'.

Perhaps I will call my Grenadier 'Bertha'.

We had two famous "Bertha's" in Germany:
- Bertha Krupp. She was for quite some time the De Facto boss of Krupp Stahl.
- The 'Dicke Berta'. Just google it.

So 'Bertha' is probably a good name for a Grenadier.

 

[denym_]

Diesel here is currently more expensive than petrol afaik. With the engine using less it comes to basically the same outcome. For the diesel then you have to calculate in the adblue and higher maintenance costs. I prob go with petrol and just don't eat for a week each month
To the offtopic: I would still go for electric cars. The advantage of cobalt is it can be recycled by 95 percent. If everything goes well we have get a nice industry of electric and battery recycling. Its way better than having wars over a decaying resource named oil which is turned into diesel/petrol.

 

[emax]

Old story.

Peak Oil was once predicted for the mid 90s. We‘re still waiting for it.

I'm tired of political ideology bullshit.

 

[Tazzieman]

Don't tell your wife who mines her diamonds and other jewels!

 

[emax]

the calming of a Diesel engine...

I called it the 'better Feng Shui of the Diesel'.

 

[denym_]

Old story.

Peak Oil was once predicted for the mid 90s. We‘re still waiting for it.

I'm tired of political ideology bullshit.

Oha ich sehe, eher Stammtischniveau gewuenscht... Bin dann mal raus hier.

 

[Tazzieman]

I called it the 'better Feng Shui of the Diesel'.

Feng Shui conjures up images of calm placebo , in contrast to the awkward reality!

Gutting Germany — Part 3: Diesel

A story of economic suicide in the face of resource depletion

thehonestsorcerer.medium.com

 

[emax]

The Greens in Germany have always had the deindustrialization of Germany in mind. And all the idiots which get their license to vote just because they are over 18 years old, followed (and still follow) them like the lemmings.

Now, Robert Habeck, a green children book author, is our minister of economy. And thus, the green agenda is on schedule.

Yes, we need Feng Shui more than ever, maybe together with some free hashish or mariuhana to take things easy.

That seems to be their plan.

 

[DaveB]

The Greens in Germany have always had the deindustrialization of Germany in mind. And all the idiots which get their license to vote just because they are over 18 years old, followed (and still follow) them like the lemmings.

Now, Robert Habeck, a green children book author, is our minister of economy. And thus, the green agenda is on schedule.

Yes, we need Feng Shui more than ever, maybe together with some free hashish or mariuhana to take things easy.

That seems to be their plan.

Maybe time to move to Australia

 

[Shopkeep]

The Soy-Decaf-Latte set has also taken root down south in Oz, maybe opt for the northern regions if packing your bags.

 

[Tazzieman]

The Soy-Decaf-Latte set has also taken root down south in Oz, maybe opt for the northern regions if packing your bags.

And only visit Tasmania (it's not really Australua) on holiday. We are quite happy with the current population and vibe!
Mind you there are plenty of greens
, but that's what you get for having wilderness.
Diesel vs petrol is like Christian vs Muslim...the same god of oil and ICE is worshipped,
.
And the Buddhists sit calmly on the sidelines righteoysly watching their evs soak up the sun
Or perhaps not
I reckon stick to your own religion and keep the preaching amongst yourselves.
And buy Killicrankie diamonds for your wives & gfs!

 

[Pipm4000]

Still want an electric car?

From the Australian public broadcaster - ABC

My Tesla has a lithium ferro phosphate battery, no nickel or cobalt, 6 times the longevity and much lower fire risk as well as no need to worry about charging to 100% - basically leave it plugged in all the time. I wouldn’t buy a battery electric car with any other battery type at the moment.