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I just tried the website listed for the diesel oil:
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Then the Owner's Manual, Page 179 states "Petronas Syntium 0W30 DG":
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I can't seem to find a Petronas Syntium oil with that suffix (or indeed a prefix) DG. Instead there's:

CP ~ Citroën and Peugeot
DM ~ Mercedes-Benz and Renault
E ~ Citroën and Peugeot
FJ ~ Ford and Jaguar
LL ~ BMW (LL-04), VW and Porsche

The latter LL seems partly consistent with the label reference to BMW LL-12FE:
 

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I just tried the website listed for the diesel oil:
View attachment 7807317
Then the Owner's Manual, Page 179 states "Petronas Syntium 0W30 DG":
View attachment 7807318

I can't seem to find a Petronas Syntium oil with that suffix (or indeed a prefix) DG. Instead there's:

CP ~ Citroën and Peugeot
DM ~ Mercedes-Benz and Renault
E ~ Citroën and Peugeot
FJ ~ Ford and Jaguar
LL ~ BMW (LL-04), VW and Porsche

The latter LL seems partly consistent with the label reference to BMW LL-12FE:
The DG would be “Diesel Grenadier” wouldn’t it?
 

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On the Petronas website you will find a safety data sheet for Petronas Syntium 0W30DG
but there is no product data sheet. Maybe it is too new. I don't know what - DG - stand for.





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I just tried the website listed for the diesel oil:
View attachment 7807317
Then the Owner's Manual, Page 179 states "Petronas Syntium 0W30 DG":
View attachment 7807318

I can't seem to find a Petronas Syntium oil with that suffix (or indeed a prefix) DG. Instead there's:

CP ~ Citroën and Peugeot
DM ~ Mercedes-Benz and Renault
E ~ Citroën and Peugeot
FJ ~ Ford and Jaguar
LL ~ BMW (LL-04), VW and Porsche

The latter LL seems partly consistent with the label reference to BMW LL-12FE:
On the Petronas website you will find a safety data sheet for Petronas Syntium 0W30DG
but there is no product data sheet. Maybe it is too new. I don't know what - DG - stand for.



Ask Lewis, Petronas and Ineos pay 2/3 of his salary 🤣

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On the Petronas website you will find a safety data sheet for Petronas Syntium 0W30DG
but there is no product data sheet. Maybe it is too new. I don't know what - DG - stand for.





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DG Possibly a code to indicate suitability for both diesel and gasoline engines...
 

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DG Possibly a code to indicate suitability for both diesel and gasoline engines...
No ~ it's a different oil for petrol models.
 

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On the Petronas website you will find a safety data sheet for Petronas Syntium 0W30DG
but there is no product data sheet. Maybe it is too new. I don't know what - DG - stand for.





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Excellent ~ do you have a link for the page please?

I contacted the Petronas helpline (Technical Support UK) and got the following reply:

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And a subsequent reply:

"Thanks for sharing the photo [under bonnet label] . As far as I know we don't have a BMW LL-12 FE approved oil.

We have the petrol variant Syntium 7000 LL 0W-20 (LL-17FE).

Here is the official definition of BMW LL-12 FE,

"
EOP BMW LL12FE BMW Longlife 12 FE (Petrol) BMW Longlife 12 FE (Petrol)

Engine Oils
BMW & Mini Longlife12FE is an SAE 5W-20, or xW-30 viscosity fuel efficient, mid-SAPS, service fill crankcase, Grp IV oil for petrol and light duty diesel engines from circa 2013 onwards. Based on ACEA C2-16, plus BMW engine durability, wear & sludge tests, with SASH of <0.8% wt, TBN of 6.0 mgKOH/g, NOAK 13% max, and 2.9 min HTHS viscosity, cP. Not for diesel engines with 2, or 3 TC's. Can be used in gasoline engines, but only within the EC, Norway, Switzerland & Liechtenstein. Only allowed for S55, or S63, M engines within the EC/other countries as above. Updated in 2018"

I'm going to send this on to our automotive sector expert, see what he makes of it."

And this was attached:

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0W-20 😵‍💫

All I can say is be careful.

The low viscosity oils are primarily good for better fuel economy and lower emissions because these viscosities have lower frictional resistance. That's good for the approvals.

But they are not good for an engine that is under stress.
 

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The oil conversation have been copied to a more relevant thread.

This one has run its course.

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