Workshop Manuals available?

[Clark Kent]

When on a page looking at a part, if you click on the question mark there are instructions on how to use the parts catalogue. Also information about copyright and not sharing. Oops View attachment 7906694

And there it is... Good pickup @Logsplitter.

Hi @Stu_Barnes. Sorry to throw this back to you again. We had an exchange about potential copyright back here.
In the last interview with Lynn she sought your assistance to minimise the take-up of access to the manuals. We can support Lynn's request by doing exactly what is occurring here if IAL given a written approval. Those who have access and are willing to assist other forum members can then post content from the manuals without breaching copyright.
The loose part of approval for this purpose is that posting content here is a public release because forum guests can also see the content, i.e. it is not restricted to members only. IAL might not like that.

Would you please take this up with IAL. I'm going to stop posting copyright material until this can be resolved.

 

[DenisM]

And there it is... Good pickup @Logsplitter.

Hi @Stu_Barnes. Sorry to throw this back to you again. We had an exchange about potential copyright back here.
In the last interview with Lynn she sought your assistance to minimise the take-up of access to the manuals. We can support Lynn's request by doing exactly what is occurring here if IAL given a written approval. Those who have access and are willing to assist other forum members can then post content from the manuals without breaching copyright.
The loose part of approval for this purpose is that posting content here is a public release because forum guests can also see the content, i.e. it is not restricted to members only. IAL might not like that.

Would you please take this up with IAL. I'm going to stop posting copyright material until this can be resolved.

On that basis, perhaps certain sections in which all such material is posted, subject to IA approval, should be available to Grenadier owning "members only" ...i.e paid up members..... meaning one would be required to be logged in to review/contribute/access copyright material.
Thoughts?

 

[Clark Kent]

On that basis, perhaps certain sections in which all such material is posted, subject to IA approval, should be available to Grenadier owning "members only" ...i.e paid up members..... meaning one would be required to be logged in to review/contribute/access copyright material.
Thoughts?

Potentially. A sealed section for members only, financial or otherwise. I was leaving that to Stu to determine if he wants to change how the forum operates. I don't want to plant the seed for IAL and therefore create more work for Stu, but it's a logical lockdown he could offer to help get IAL over the line with a blanket approval for forum members.

 

[[ Adam ]]

On that basis, perhaps certain sections in which all such material is posted, subject to IA approval, should be available to Grenadier owning "members only" ...i.e paid up members..... meaning one would be required to be logged in to review/contribute/access copyright material.
Thoughts?

This, IMO only reinforces the need for a paper field service manual - just what you need and nothing you don't, from Ineos.

 

[Clark Kent]

This, IMO only reinforces the need for a paper field service manual - just what you need and nothing you don't, from Ineos.

That's assuming a paper manual would be free of copyright. Generally it's the content that is protected not the format.

 

[Stu_Barnes]

And there it is... Good pickup @Logsplitter.

Hi @Stu_Barnes. Sorry to throw this back to you again. We had an exchange about potential copyright back here.
In the last interview with Lynn she sought your assistance to minimise the take-up of access to the manuals. We can support Lynn's request by doing exactly what is occurring here if IAL given a written approval. Those who have access and are willing to assist other forum members can then post content from the manuals without breaching copyright.
The loose part of approval for this purpose is that posting content here is a public release because forum guests can also see the content, i.e. it is not restricted to members only. IAL might not like that.

Would you please take this up with IAL. I'm going to stop posting copyright material until this can be resolved.

I’ll Work out some sort of consensus with them, or at least find out what the bottom line is.

 

[[ Adam ]]

That's assuming a paper manual would be free of copyright. Generally it's the content that is protected not the format.

I'm okay with paying for such a manual, in support of the copyright holder.

 

[Rok_Dr]

When on a page looking at a part, if you click on the question mark there are instructions on how to use the parts catalogue. Also information about copyright and not sharing. Oops

Thanks @Logsplitter . That's a pretty bullet proof copyright statement..... but very generic and in some parts of the world would be unenforceable.

Fingers crossed @Stu_Barnes you will be able to clarify what is acceptable, given the US is one jurisdiction that has good copyright protections.

Cheers
Steve

 

[Logsplitter]

I think an easy answer for now, is if someone needs some documentation because they are stuck and any of us can help, then we share any documents via private message. This forum is all about finding solutions and helping one another so I’ll be doing that for now until I’m told to desist.