Turning Radius

[Tom109]

Is there a steering damper with equivalent feel to stock, but not limiting turning travel?

 

[cdsvt]

You can choose any one of 24 different settings on the Fox ATS, so there is at least one option that may be similar.

One note: it will allow the steering wheel to return to center, so that will be a noticeable difference from stock.

 

[Dougn]

there's a steering angle readout on the display. mine is stock and stops at 32 degrees both ways

 

[Dokatd]

there's a steering angle readout on the display. mine is stock and stops at 32 degrees both ways

If I recall correctly mine modded hits 42° according to the display.

 

[OkGo]

Isn't there this weird thing where the steering stops in one direction, as if you have made contact with the bump stop. And then slowly it will turn a further half turn

 

[Ovrland Bill]

there's a steering angle readout on the display. mine is stock and stops at 32 degrees both ways

This seems a really useful observation, I will compare mine (as soon as I get up the nerve to start the car and check for any special New Year’s “Service Due” messages).

 

[Tazzieman]

Isn't there this weird thing where the steering stops in one direction, as if you have made contact with the bump stop. And then slowly it will turn a further half turn

I could do that to your shoulder joint, but it's not necessarily an healthy thing!

 

[Dokatd]

Isn't there this weird thing where the steering stops in one direction, as if you have made contact with the bump stop. And then slowly it will turn a further half turn

That's when the power steering turns off and you are in fully manual steering. I assume it's just one of those new electric power steering things.

 

[Dougn]

Isn't there this weird thing where the steering stops in one direction, as if you have made contact with the bump stop. And then slowly it will turn a further half turn

I'm betting this is not true. we'll see. i turned my steering in one direction to the 32 degree indication and looked at the mechanical stop and it was indeed up against the mechanical stop

 

[Dokatd]

I'm betting this is not true. we'll see. i turned my steering in one direction to the 32 degree indication and looked at the mechanical stop and it was indeed up against the mechanical stop

Oh it's 100% true. Or it was on 24 deliveries. We even had a forum member that had detailed discussions with Ineos about it.

My truck was and still is 100% this way. I cannot hit the stops without powering through the last bit. It's more pronounced going in reverse. But on a lift the truck will easily reach full stop either direction by hand. By hand meaning engine off and manipulating the wheels directly. I'm sure you could do it with the steering wheel but I haven't tried it if I'm honest. But the power steering 100% cuts off completely at its programmed max turn angle.

 

[255/85]

Got to be a really rough day when you need snow chains on all 4 wheels.

It used to be common to run chains on all four wheels in some of the rougher pats of North America in the winter like on the high plains or in the Missouri Breaks. These are places where many hundreds of miles of dirt roads go unplowed. I think the widespread availablity of lockers and winches and better tire technology has diminished the practice. There's at least one forum member that runs full chains recreationally... on a RR I think.

 

[DenisM]

The pertinent question is if the steering limits are to keep the double cardan joints in the front axles from exceeding the working limit. If as suggested by DenisM the stops were set only to allow for snow chains then reducing the turning circle by adjusting the stops would not be an issue. But this is a big if that increases the potential for damage to the joints as the maximum working angle is approached.

Your post reminded me of a response to the report at the club meeting outlined in post #83 above. As the chap was concluding his report, and adjusting the screw stop began to be discussed, a member of the dealership service staff present "whispered" to those around him "Don't do it!". I didn't get a chance to ask him what damage said adjustment might cause. However, @TCMColorado, I support your point re. the stressing the double Cardan joints... I'll quizz the service dept next time I'm there...

 

[Zimm]

They turned the stops in two threads from reaching the nut as standard.

Where did you find this info?

 

[Tenac]

Where did you find this info?

Forgot to add the ? to it.

 

[Dougn]

Oh it's 100% true. Or it was on 24 deliveries. We even had a forum member that had detailed discussions with Ineos about it.

My truck was and still is 100% this way. I cannot hit the stops without powering through the last bit. It's more pronounced going in reverse. But on a lift the truck will easily reach full stop either direction by hand. By hand meaning engine off and manipulating the wheels directly. I'm sure you could do it with the steering wheel but I haven't tried it if I'm honest. But the power steering 100% cuts off completely at its programmed max turn angle.

what did these detailed discussions reveal? is there a thread?

 

[Dokatd]

what did these detailed discussions reveal? is there a thread?

There is a thread, but I do not have it book marked by any means. It will be on one of the 50 threads about turning radius.