Stuck at Cape York

[AWo]

Can't look at it.....I hope these were kinetic ropes...

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/s6lsS7YYR9M?si=8sAm_vVChZCPhXz4


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[Tom D]

Does anyone know if the gearbox can be out into neutral electronically? Or does the engine have to be running to provide hydraulic pressure?

Just wondering if its a feature that could be added to the code reader…

 

[ADVAW8S]

Does anyone know if the gearbox can be out into neutral electronically? Or does the engine have to be running to provide hydraulic pressure?

Just wondering if its a feature that could be added to the code reader…

I was wondering if the car wash mode would work like it does for the winch as long as you have battery power. You put truck in neutral, turn off the engine and turn the key back to ACC. The Grenadier doesn't jump into park and you are in neutral to move the vehicle a short distance.

 

[Tazzieman]

I was wondering if the car wash mode would work like it does for the winch as long as you have battery power. You put truck in neutral, turn off the engine and turn the key back to ACC. The Grenadier doesn't jump into park and you are in neutral to move the vehicle a short distance.

Correct. Ironically, destroying one's engine by fording a deep river is a sort of carwash .

 

[RY-Journeyman]

Very illuminating thanks all for the info.

Key messages:

1. Don’t cross rivers when they are too deep for your vehicle and setup.

2. Reminder that diesel engines hydrolock when flooded which is very expensive to repair - usually needs a new engine.

3. A new bmw engine and turbo etc from Ineos costs about $30-35,000 AUD.

4. Social media is a mixed blessing and can destroy reputations faster than build them.

5. Journalists creating click bait headlines run the risk of being caught out if the click bait isn’t truthful.

6. Seemingly nice people can get caught in the frenzy to make content and forget about journalistic integrity.

7. And most importantly, we’re all human and can have brain farts - like items 1, 5 and 6 above. And that actions usually have consequences.

Agree with others that this saga should be highlighted to stop negativity and falsehoods damaging Ineos reputation and causing undue angst in existing owners, and also that this has now been successfully achieved and it is likely time to move on. Goading the relevant parties to eke out an explanation or apology isn’t likely to yield much more of value.

My only question is are there any learning points for forum members from this such as on how to cross deep rivers safely when your vehicle is going to be potentially submerged beyond manufacturer specified safe depths. For instance in an emergency. Are there any tips or tricks that can be applied in the field to temporarily allow the vehicle to wade safely or is it a fools errand? Any advice on this from experienced drivers is very much appreciated.

 

[TheDocAUS]

My only question is are there any learning points for forum members from this such as on how to cross deep rivers safely when your vehicle is going to be potentially submerged beyond manufacturer specified safe depths. For instance in an emergency. Are there any tips or tricks that can be applied in the field to temporarily allow the vehicle to wade safely or is it a fools errand? Any advice on this from experienced drivers is very much appreciated.

There is no safe way to cross water above the max wading depth. There are only ways to reduce the risk. For any water crossing consider the following:

1. The main safeguard is getting a sealed snorkel and sealed airbox. Also read the thread on sealed snorkels here.
2. An INEOS RAI is better than no intake, when going over max wading depth. See the Michael H video below on why that is.
3. Engage WADING mode on the IG or QM. Let the car cool down before crossing. Watch the @Michael H video below for more INEOS specific tips.
4. Cover the front of the car with canvas or a car bra to limit water going into the engine bay.
5. Properly prepare the car for a water crossing. See the first Ronny Dahl video below.
6. Drive the water crossing properly. See the second Ronny Dahl video below.
7. Do a quality off road training course, including water crossings, before you go offroad. It is a must do, not an optional extra. Those that do not, often pay a heavy price.
8. Both the vehicle and the driver need preparation. Neither is optional, both are required.
9. Put you Big Boy Pants on, or do not do water crossings. You often have a choice.

View: https://youtu.be/ONHrgU_8cdU?t=168

View: https://youtu.be/Qg0xxf07RH4

View: https://youtu.be/mX-amVUtMcI

 

[NQ94]

There is no safe way to cross water above the max wading depth. There are only ways to reduce the risk. For any water crossing consider the following:

1. The main safeguard is getting a sealed snorkel and sealed airbox. Also read the thread on sealed snorkels here.
2. An INEOS RAI is better than no intake, when going over max wading depth. See the Michael H video below on why that is.
3. Engage WADING mode on the IG or QM. Let the car cool down before crossing. Watch the @Michael H video below for more INEOS specific tips.
4. Cover the front of the car with canvas or a car bra to limit water going into the engine bay.
5. Properly prepare the car for a water crossing. See the first Ronny Dahl video below.
6. Drive the water crossing properly. See the second Ronny Dahl video below.
7. Do a quality off road training course, including water crossings, before you go offroad. It is a must do, not an optional extra. Those that do not, often pay a heavy price.
8. Both the vehicle and the driver need preparation. Neither is optional, both are required.
9. Put you Big Boy Pants on, or do not do water crossings. You often have a choice.
   
   
   
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   Most of these videos people are still only opening the bonnet and spraying water dispersant on connectors there. Most cars are auto now and some like the Ineos only shift by wire and need t/case inputs to the ecu for the car to function. It's a good idea to get under and spray the connectors for the transmission and t/case. These connectors are some of the first to get fully submerged in deep water and pushed through the water more than the engine connectors and have the potential to stop a car from starting or selecting gears. It pays to inspect these regularly as well as the chassis wiring on a trip that involves a lot of water crossings.
   I like to use Industrial lanotec lanolin spray to spray connectors, it's a bit messy but seems to work better and does not damage the wire seals like some petroleum based sprays.

 

[Nadir5]

1. 
   Most of these videos people are still only opening the bonnet and spraying water dispersant on connectors there. Most cars are auto now and some like the Ineos only shift by wire and need t/case inputs to the ecu for the car to function. It's a good idea to get under and spray the connectors for the transmission and t/case. These connectors are some of the first to get fully submerged in deep water and pushed through the water more than the engine connectors and have the potential to stop a car from starting or selecting gears. It pays to inspect these regularly as well as the chassis wiring on a trip that involves a lot of water crossings.
   I like to use Industrial lanotec lanolin spray to spray connectors, it's a bit messy but seems to work better and does not damage the wire seals like some petroleum based sprays.

Seems spraying under the truck like that could be challenging with skid plates installed. Will have to spend some time under the truck trying to figure out how to get spray where it needs to go.

 

[Tazzieman]

I like to use Industrial lanotec lanolin spray to spray connectors

The sheepy smell is not for the mall
Good product though.

 

[AWo]

I recommend ECS 71 spray.
It is a polyurethan electronics and circuit board protection spray up to 72kV.

It suppresses water first and generates a flexible but water tight skin.

I use it for winch contacts, ECU's and plugs.

https://www.ecsag.com/wp-content/uploads/TDS%204:25/TDS_771.000.000._de.pdf

And, for the Ineos fans.....Ineos uses it to protect electric equipment which is located outside.

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[Tazzieman]

I recommend ECS 71 spray.

And, for the Ineos fans.....Ineos uses it to protect electric equipment which is located outside.

They probably supply the chemicals it's made from.
Australia supplies the sheep that makes our Lanox

 

[CRH]

What is classed as a water crossing. We have ford's that are shallow or deep depending on the rainfall but generally short distances.

As someone who does want to do an off road coarse but hasn't, any chance of some education for the people who have no clue and will likely only come across flooding.
One comment above, let vehicle cool down. How cool, for what depth/distance. This kind of info would be useful for careful users.