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Yes, it's amazing how he took on the manufacturer bashing role in his first video when he only had one side of the story. He mentions bad journalism in his most recent post and for mine, he's also guilty of bad journalism. Good journalism is about getting all the facts and then reporting them without bias, something he has not done on this occasion.
I see Cadogan's first two videos of this saga have been taken down and rightly so. It was certainly not 'balanced' journalism, far from it and as I recall a recommendation was made not to purchase. Seems that recommendation was based on an unverified story that the facts of the matter have now proved to be false. Shameful really.
he was treading lightly, even by his own admission
Yes, large groups for travel is like herding cats. One reason why W.A has resisted the move to a club is that too much BS as associated with them as you have mentioned. We keep it casual, just the way we like it, plus most don't see a benefit.
He's seen enough of them (marriage lawyers) so he has first hand experience on how costly things can get
Not taken down yet, just removed from his channel.
I refuse to click on his videos and give him revenue. He is part of the problem and was happy to repeat lies without ever verifying the facts.
In fairness to the club and committee, the club I am involved with, a tripleader is responsible for a reece/advice of the track/trip and grading the difficulty plus giving the club members a scale of experience needed. With some day trips the tripleader will drive it maybe a week before and will give consideration of weather leading up to it and cancel if need be. The club event is insured but if you decide to break away you are on your own. That group then decides who will lead and should by rights be the most experienced and give advice on whether you should or shouldn't take that chance. Who was the leader?
I never saw this as a club issue but rather two individuals who screwed up and then spun a web of lies to blame Ineos for their own personal poor decisions. In the process they created an internet firestorm that damaged the brand. Canny was the ring leader of the media mess and he needs to come clean. Maybe you Aussies are more forgiving than us Americans but that level of deceit gets you flat out cancelled here…. Unless you are a California politician then you can lie all day and nothing happens.
I can assure you that the Club is professionally managed to a high standard. Members are an "eclectic" mix of business owners, professionals, retirees .... age-wise they range from mid-late 30s to active septuagenarians
. Many have extensive outback touring experience with (for example), one recently completing a solo 16k+ km traverse of the Gibb River Rd and other parts of Northern and Central Western Australia. All members are encouraged to participate in an extensive theory based learning/assessment session followed by a weekend practical workshop at (usually) Black Duck Creek Park where various exercises in 4wd skills are demonstrated and practised. Part of the weekend is for "+1"/partners to give them confidence behind the wheel in case the main driver becomes incapacitated for whatever reason. Extensive First Aid courses are also offered. Completion of the Black Duck experience is also generally a prerequisite before signing up for any "technical" outings which the Club might organise.
Were the 4 cars on the Frenchman's track officially part of the Club's Cape York trip or did they decide to do their own thing that day? And did they rejoin the Club trip later?I can assure you that the Club is professionally managed to a high standard. Members are an "eclectic" mix of business owners, professionals, retirees .... age-wise they range from mid-late 30s to active septuagenarians
The Cape York incident was a snafu pure and simple. Things happen. The main issues were safety related for the hapless driver. He was fully supported by accompanying members: they stayed with him, got the vehicle relocated out of the "traffic", waited for the flatbed etc.
At the meetings held since, the issue wasn't a big deal. Social media notwithstanding the members are actually empathetic to the situation... while the Pasco River dunking was inadvertent, it was not a failure of process or leadership by the Club.
We have a 'switched on' executive, including a most competent Technical Officer and a Training Officer We are fully registered with various State Govt authorities as required and operate under the auspices of 4WD QLD as do most other registered 4wd clubs.
Hope this clarifies things for our fellow interstate and international owner enthusiasts.
Edit: "apparently" we do have 1 or 2 born-again octogenarians in our ranks
When I worked at a dealership (not Ineos) customers occasionally were concerned that they had had an accident and the airbags hadn’t deployed
Sorry @DenisM. Not at all. You just happened to have the last post above mine! Your explanation was fine.@Clark Kent
Gday! I'm hoping I didn't imply any criticism or that there was anything untoward with John Canny's participation re. the trip. Quite the opposite in fact.
My reference was merely to point out that with his Patriot camper in tow he successfully traversed the Frenchman's track and IIRC some of the old Telegraph Track on the way north. He was the only one of the group, as best I can determine, who actually towed a camper on the tracks. From his earlier videos of the trip, the trailer did very well.
I've met John on a couple of occasions. He's most affable, knowledgeable and enthusiastic.
The recent events give me no reason whatsoever to change my positive opinion
