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Stuck at Cape York

Max said:
That is classic and yes unnerving...Who's the white guy? :ROFLMAO: (y)
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Well that guy in the picture called Jonesy, we went and found him on my African travels in the Grenadier. He lives in Cape Maclear in Malawi. We took him on some travels through Zambia in year 2000. We knew him from Cape Maclear as we used to frequent the lake at weekends when we lived in Malawi. The crazy thing is our windscreen wipers didn’t work. So we fashioned a loop of twine around the windscreen and into the cab. When it rained Jonesy would pull the twine back and forth to make the windscreen wipers work. We had a great laugh over a few beers talking about that in November 2023 in Cape Maclear. 🍺
 
ECrider said:
Most prob seen this at Gunshot but I've just happened across it;

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPZy8AAsTxk
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Rarely do any people do any damage reports after GunShot besides the videos where it all goes wrong. Fans through radiators would be common or the radiator leaking from unseen damage weeks later. The Grenadier radiator look vulnerable pushing through mud like in the video and guessing it would not be cheap to replace.
 
NQ94 said:
We got to get through the US and Euro video editorials and the usual Aussie reviews yet. With two water related incidents reported on in the last week this topic going to be getting creators views and revenue for some time.
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Wasn't the second one on CSR tied to getting stuck in mud and water at around 700mm. That water never got in engine but because it sat in water for 4 days, it's consider a goner?
 
Wonder what it would take to have a 'humidity' sensor ahead of the air box, that could trigger an engine shutdown on detecting water. Save the engine.. likely not easy to implement.

On a different note, I remember in the 90s travelling in Mongolia a lot of the 4x4's used to have raised exhausts!
 
SeaMist said:
New Cadogan video. Looks even worse for Canny et al.

New Cadogan Video
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In summary, Canny and Fowler told whoppers in the now taken down video. Trust them at your own risk.

INEOS had given lots of info to Cadogan in the latest video. Much more than the INEOS press release dated 3 Dec 2025. The evidence supports what INEOS is saying and appears to contradict Canny and Fowler.

I have unsubscribed from the Canny Outdoor YouTube channel. I have lost respect and trust in John.

After getting the Insurance company to cover the car damage and then put out that video deserves a nomination for The Darwin Awards* this week, for both John and Arthur.

A very sad state of affairs, which has unfairly harmed the IG and INEOS.

*The Darwin Awards salute the improvement of the human genome by honoring those who accidentally remove themselves from it in a spectacular manner!​
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Like Ronny Dahl said, no press is bad press. Especially with a favorable outcome towards the Grenadier.
I’m pleased to see how it all shook out, and I guarantee the Ineos brand will be stronger moving forward.
Not sure what the hell John Canny was thinking putting this story up in mangled pieces on his YT.
Seems like wilful ignorance.
 
I have held of with this comment but believe it is relevant and it hasn't been mentioned previously. No one has asked about or mentioned the club. The actual drowing of the car is not the issue, it is how events following could damage the club. How much damage has this fiasco done to the clubs reputation, how many perspective members are questioning the clubs ethics? The club has been mentioned numerous times in videos. There would of been both members and committee members on the trip complicit to the details and remained silent. Not everyone in a club can make it to big trips and there would be members and committee members quietly pissed off at the whole situation and the intense scrutiny the last few videos from creators have publicly brought to a new club trying to establish itself.
IMO the club missed the mark and should of reviewed at a meeting or a special event each video, voted on and approved by members and committee before a creator publicly released, possibly for income, any club sanctioned club trip videos to a public forum. If that had occurred this unfortunate event would not have appeared or just been another Cape misfortune video.
A bit of a rant but 4WD clubs and their committees need to be reputable and trusted for businesses, prospective members and land holders who give access and other who work with and help these clubs for the benefit of the members.
 
NQ94 said:
I have held of with this comment but believe it is relevant and it hasn't been mentioned previously. No one has asked about or mentioned the club. The actual drowing of the car is not the issue, it is how events following could damage the club. How much damage has this fiasco done to the clubs reputation, how many perspective members are questioning the clubs ethics? The club has been mentioned numerous times in videos. There would of been both members and committee members on the trip complicit to the details and remained silent. Not everyone in a club can make it to big trips and there would be members and committee members quietly pissed off at the whole situation and the intense scrutiny the last few videos from creators have publicly brought to a new club trying to establish itself.
IMO the club missed the mark and should of reviewed at a meeting or a special event each video, voted on and approved by members and committee before a creator publicly released, possibly for income, any club sanctioned club trip videos to a public forum. If that had occurred this unfortunate event would not have appeared or just been another Cape misfortune video.
A bit of a rant but 4WD clubs and their committees need to be reputable and trusted for businesses, prospective members and land holders who give access and other who work with and help these clubs for the benefit of the members.
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I went to the first few meetings, but in the end I’m not really a club guy, and touring with any more than 2-3 vehicles would drive me mad. I’d love to attend info nights and that sort of thing, but I wasn’t going to spend $300 a year or whatever it was for the privilege. But yes, there is often too complex a dynamic in those sorts of groups, and all power to the committees who have to manage that stuff.
 
bigleonski said:
I went to the first few meetings, but in the end I’m not really a club guy, and touring with any more than 2-3 vehicles would drive me mad. I’d love to attend info nights and that sort of thing, but I wasn’t going to spend $300 a year or whatever it was for the privilege. But yes, there is often too complex a dynamic in those sorts of groups, and all power to the committees who have to manage that stuff.
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I was in club and visited a few clubs that were establishing over the years. There are a lot of people who put an extraordinary amount of time and effort into great trips. I agree some of the trips groups got a bit too large and there are some personalities that can be difficult but overall it was a positive experience. Unfortunately a lot of weekend work interrupted, and I slowly departed the club scene and try to solo tour when I can now.
 
NQ94 said:
I have held of with this comment but believe it is relevant and it hasn't been mentioned previously. No one has asked about or mentioned the club. The actual drowing of the car is not the issue, it is how events following could damage the club. How much damage has this fiasco done to the clubs reputation, how many perspective members are questioning the clubs ethics? The club has been mentioned numerous times in videos. There would of been both members and committee members on the trip complicit to the details and remained silent. Not everyone in a club can make it to big trips and there would be members and committee members quietly pissed off at the whole situation and the intense scrutiny the last few videos from creators have publicly brought to a new club trying to establish itself.
IMO the club missed the mark and should of reviewed at a meeting or a special event each video, voted on and approved by members and committee before a creator publicly released, possibly for income, any club sanctioned club trip videos to a public forum. If that had occurred this unfortunate event would not have appeared or just been another Cape misfortune video.
A bit of a rant but 4WD clubs and their committees need to be reputable and trusted for businesses, prospective members and land holders who give access and other who work with and help these clubs for the benefit of the members.
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Yes another elephant in the room.

I decided not to go there, but I am happy you did.
 
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