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Stuck at Cape York

So assuming the engine was compression locked, what would cause the massive oil leak? possibly the head gasket blowing out on the compression locked cylinder next to an oil gallery, obviously a conrod sticking out the side of the block would be obvious. hats off to the insurance company, and to Ineos, they both deserve praise, not condemnation.
 
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The number of “I was just about to go buy one right this hour, then I watched this video and now I’m never buying one and I hope they fail!” comments are almost humorous. Sure you were. It’s too easy in this modern age to destroy someone without revealing the whole truth, which oftentimes reveals the fault doesn’t lie with the one attacked. Ask any cop, many times the guy making all the noise is the one at fault.
There are lots of idiots out there ready to render an opinion...sans facts.

One cried fowl with regards to water ingestion because...wait for it...the oil leaking out from the engine was brown, not like a milkshake...indicative of water in the crankcase. Apparently they didn't understand that water coming through the intake will bend or break a rod, but is isolated from the crankcase.

There's bound to be more communication with Ineos than what's been revealed.
 
So assuming the engine was compression locked, what would cause the massive oil leak? possibly the head gasket blowing out on the compression locked cylinder the next to an oil gallery, obviously a corned sticking out the side of the block would be obvious. hats off to the insurance company, and to Ineos, they both deserve praise, not condemnatio

There are lots of idiots out there ready to render an opinion...sans facts.

One cried fowl with regards to water ingestion because...wait for it...the oil leaking out from the engine was brown, not like a milkshake...indicative of water in the crankcase. Apparently they didn't understand that water coming through the intake will bend or break a rod, but is isolated from the crankcase.

There's bound to be more communication with Ineos than what's been revealed.

Proceedully speaking the cause doesn't really matter. The point is this group posted video of themselves using these vehicles contrary to their warranty conditions.

I'd assume all 5 vehicles that crossed that day would not be warranted for engine failures in the future as the RAI do not increase the max wading depth.

Wonder if that occurred to Mr Canny et al when posted their video.
 
People seem to forget it is a BMW motor, sourced and detuned by INEOS for extended reliability.

It is a motor that has a well earned reputation for reliability over many years - long before INEOS started using it. Such motors do not just implode, it was damaged some how. Most likely by a driver with less remote travel experience and most likely accidentally. Precisely when an insurance policy should respond.
 
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So assuming the engine was compression locked, what would cause the massive oil leak? possibly the head gasket blowing out on the compression locked cylinder next to an oil gallery, obviously a corned sticking out the side of the block would be obvious. hats off to the insurance company, and to Ineos, they both deserve praise, not condemnation.
Rod going through the block due to being hydrolocked…
 
Sure did not look like much. If its that easy to ingest water, I would have done it. I have had water over the hood. That being said, clarity on what went wrong stops the rumor mill.
I reckon your RAI makes a difference. Point made though as it applies with the driveshaft issues.

Nice part of the world down your way, love that dry country. I remember doing a track nearby Albuquerque but I can’t recall the name… Rio Puerto is it? Are there some good trails in the area, other Gren owners nearby?
 
Good news that the insurance company picked up the cost if the failure is a non-warrantable event. Assuming water ingress caused the failure he must be with someone like Club4x4 who insure for water damage from intentionally driving in deep water. Pretty sure there is a 5 or 10% excess payed by the policy holder for a deep water event.

Even the best engines have a few bad seeds.
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Bad day at 2500hp
This bloke does tear downs of all types of engines for his channel.
View: https://youtu.be/2Pbc_lQQaNk?si=BkN4CeqnOmLIyQWn
 
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Good news that the insurance company picked up the cost if the failure is a non-warrantable event. Assuming water ingress caused the failure he must be with someone like Club4x4 who insure for water damage from intentionally driving in deep water. Pretty sure there is a 5 or 10% excess payed by the policy holder for a deep water event.

Even the best engines have a few bad seeds.
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Bad day at 2500hp
It was Budget Direct.
 
People seem to forget it is a BMW motor, sourced and detuned by INEOS for extended reliability.

It is a motor that has a well earned reputation for reliability over many years - long before INEOS started using it. Such motors do not just implode, it was damaged some how. Most likely by a driver with less remote travel experience and most likely accidentally. Precisely when an insurance policy should respond.
You mistake these yt "people". They're looking for any excuse to destroy the car. Some simply because it's based off a LR, others for no other reason than to wish the failure of things.
 
It was Budget Direct.
So possibly not a deep water related failure. It's common for some of the main stream insures to not cover or only partially cover the cost of damage from water crossings. Being on a gazetted road may of helped and why the insurer payed the claim.
 
You mistake these yt "people". They're looking for any excuse to destroy the car. Some simply because it's based off a LR, others for no other reason than to wish the failure of things.

Beware the Toyota fan boys lurking in dark corners of the internet still smarting from the defection of their anointed Messiah, Mr Johnny Dahl to the comfy leather seats of Quartermaster.

The greatest sin imaginable for those that worship at the foot of the mighty toyota temple. The machete wielding zombie hordes slashing down any competitive automotive worship at the first sign of blood.
 
Beware the Toyota fan boys lurking in dark corners of the internet still smarting from the defection of their anointed Messiah, Mr Johnny Dahl to the comfy leather seats of Quartermaster.

The greatest sin imaginable for those that worship at the foot of the mighty toyota temple. The machete wielding zombie hordes slashing down any competitive automotive worship at the first sign of blood.
The Toyota boys were putting crap on me when I was driving the Patrol. When Toyota says bend over, they ask how far.
 
The Toyota boys are preoccupied with the new Ford Ranger Superduty early release this week. Ranger Superduty is going to kill LC79 sales and challenge QM sales.
 
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So assuming the engine was compression locked, what would cause the massive oil leak? possibly the head gasket blowing out on the compression locked cylinder next to an oil gallery, obviously a conrod sticking out the side of the block would be obvious. hats off to the insurance company, and to Ineos, they both deserve praise, not condemnation.
These engines are so heavily dressed with acoustic shields, heat shields and pipework that it's not easy to see much of the block at all. And the block is such a convoluted messy casting that I think it could be easy on the side of road to not see a leg sticking out of bed but there is Pinot Gris (B58) or Pinot Noir (B57) running out the bottom.

With my agent, I've been chasing a minor oil leak for over 12 months and even with a boroscope it's very hard to trace water weight oil that's slowly collecting at the bottom of the bell housing. It's not coming from the rear main. It's possibly one of the o-rings behind the oil filter housing because there is traces up the left side but it's near impossible to see in there without some disassembly.
 
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If sh*t can't get worse, it just did. Canny pulled the video off his page. You can still watch it from one of the many posts. But if you go to his page it is wiped cleaned. Now your going to get ppl saying Ineos silenced him.
 

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