The Grenadier Forum

Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to contribute to the community by adding your own topics, posts, and connect with other members through your own private inbox! INEOS Agents, Dealers or Commercial vendors please use the contact us link at the bottom of the page.

Stuck at Cape York

Is John Canny the de facto tour leader for that group ? Does he do these tours for his Utube channel ?
 
It is only speculation (entirely by people who were not there) that deep water was the root cause of the failure, and there are plenty of other things that could have happened. As I recall (I'd have to rewatch the videos to be sure) at the time those present thought that a rock may have been thrown up and broken a turbo oil line. My point is that unless or until we know what killed the motor it is rather futile to speculate and no-one should make assumptions.

It is extremely regrettable that Ineos has not shared the findings that led it to conclude it was 'environmental' with the owner since unless or until they do the internet will be alive with speculation and the bad-mouthers will have a field day - as indeed they appear to be doing.

The fact that the owner's insurance company has accepted liability indicates to me (assuming that Australian insurers are as reluctant to accept any liability as UK ones are) that there is compelling evidence that it was accidental damage not a warrantable breakage, because they would not accept liability unless convinced and they won't be stupid - the evidence must be compelling. There should therefore be no question that Ineos is avoiding any responsibility. Do not forget that it was Ineos that towed the dead car for 2600km and undertook the investigation at its expense in order to ascertain if it was a warrantable issue. Most makers and insurers I have dealt with would not have moved it an inch until the cause had been determined.

Finally I have to wonder what would have happened if the vehicle had been an L663 Defender (it would probably still be in Cape York) or a Toyota. If it had been a classic Defender it would have been repairable at the roadside of course!
This fellow broke down a couple of times outback towing heavy with his new defender. Has other videos of those breakdowns but this one is a summary of how LR dealt with it. Not too bad IMHO.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Niwx8U-cOZw
 
I kinda wish John had held off on posting this until it was resolved fully and the cause was known if it could be. This one issue has done more to damage the brand on social media than the drive shaft issue.
Well there is this...
He knew he had the scoop and at 35mins with those views 🤔 it's working out nicely but he definately rushed it out the door to say...nothing.

John is a member on the forum and he may well drop in to add his further thoughts

I like John and appreciate his earlier work but he's lost my subscription after this one.

Screenshot_20251127-071902.png
 
Well there is this...
He knew he had the scoop and at 35mins with those views 🤔 it's working out nicely but he definately rushed it out the door to say...nothing.

John is a member on the forum and he may well drop in to add his further thoughts

I like John and appreciate his earlier work but he's lost my subscription after this one.

View attachment 7914772
I like John's videos and will keep watching but this video created quite the mess.
 
Canny should have waited until it was resolved fully, agree this has given the brand and undeserved punch in the goollies.
Ineos Australia needs to get on top of this and advice what the actual failure was caused by, Canny and Arthur Know what caused it
Anyone who has been to the Cape knows what "environmental damage" means or is caused by up there!
 
Make sure I understand correctly, IA gave him a new motor, no out pocket cost to owner.

The public is upset that IA won't release the cause. Also, IA was going to have the largest sales numbers ever in Australia. This is based upon the YT comments of people about to buy one but won't now.

If IA stated the engine blew because of water crossing, they would set a precedent for future incidents. You would get fools going over max water levels and expect a new engine.
Don't u love all the bogans with 150K burning a hole in their pockets, about place their order and changing their mind everytime a Grenadier gets a flat tyre
 
Don't u love all the bogans with 150K burning a hole in their pockets, about place their order and changing their mind everytime a Grenadier gets a flat tyre
The short armed short pocketed brigade. Completely covered in exoensive tatts.
 
Don't u love all the bogans with 150K burning a hole in their pockets, about place their order and changing their mind everytime a Grenadier gets a flat tyre
More likely man babies in their mom’s basement (or for a more Aussie analogy a clapped out Jayco in their mums back yard). The only order they would have cancelled recently would be for a high powered electric scooter on Alibaba.
 
Don't u love all the bogans with 150K burning a hole in their pockets, about place their order and changing their mind everytime a Grenadier gets a flat tyre
He's definitely not a bogan but I reckon ASPW will be lubricating his tonsils and tweaking his script.

Standby for "I told you so" in 5, 4, 3, 2..

1714120856242.jpg
 
Back
Top Bottom