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Owl Vans Grenadier Steering Box Upgrade

Yesterday I took my son out for a couple driving lessons. Granted he is still working out the nerves, but man even with the return to center being massively better with the Fox stabilizer the Grenadier is just an accident waiting to happen as compared to the Gwagon, Rivian or even the Humvee. It's just not intuitive for inexperienced drivers.
i wont valet park it.
 
Actually, I think it’d be better to train him on the Grenadier. I see way too many young drivers go around corners and then let go of the wheel and expect the car to self center. Yes it will, until you’re in adverse conditions and it doesn’t. Better to learn to drive the wheel back to Center than expect it too. This might also be why I noticed that most people can’t drive around corners worth of crap anymore. It would drive me nuts if I was an automotive engineer and worked on the perfect steering and suspension system and then watched everyone go around corners at 10 miles an hour.
Absolutely. Driving vehicles with no power steering and no power brake systems designed in the 1940s learning to drive in early 1980s made me a safer young driver. Of course, gaining mastery of these cars made me dangerous, but I am so appreciative of the manual and analog vehicles I learned on.
 
Yesterday I took my son out for a couple driving lessons. Granted he is still working out the nerves, but man even with the return to center being massively better with the Fox stabilizer the Grenadier is just an accident waiting to happen as compared to the Gwagon, Rivian or even the Humvee. It's just not intuitive for inexperienced drivers.
lol don’t put inexperienced drivers in a grenadier perhaps?

You bring it up as if it’s marketed for new drivers
 
lol don’t put inexperienced drivers in a grenadier perhaps?

You bring it up as if it’s marketed for new drivers
lol that is a great marketing campaign for IG. Don't buy or drive unless you grew up with old vehicles or don't currently have power steering. HAHAHA
 
lol don’t put inexperienced drivers in a grenadier perhaps?

You bring it up as if it’s marketed for new drivers
That there is the issue. I'd put him in a 90's rover all day long. Hell he started driving Unimog's before anything. The fact that the Grenadier is somehow special in those regards is just ridiculous and it's sad so many people here accept it. It's not high performance in any way shape or form. It shouldn't have had these quirks.

This is especially true when they have what seemingly look like pre teens driving their trucks in the commercials.
 
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