New Year Service Overdue Bug

[RY-Journeyman]

Seems other brands too maybe…

 

[GrenADV]

Joining the club at 1901d

 

[Commodore]

Seems other brands too maybe…

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It a Stalantis product just like a jeep. We like to complain about Ineos. Go spend some time with the Jeep and Ram guys. They have real issues. Like engines blowing up and ev jeeps burning to the ground.

 

[Tazzieman]

It a Stalantis product just like a jeep. We like to complain about Ineos. Go spend some time with the Jeep and Ram guys. They have real issues. Like engines blowing up and ev jeeps burning to the ground.

It ain't half hot mum!

View: https://youtu.be/7f8BBTbWSzk?si=p-sKXHe-DZ8lc_gt

 

[Glen]

TALLY (Updated)
Chook 1840 days
Itsdchz 1841 days, first US car with the pox
BrandonADV 1852 days
TahoeGren 1852 days
Pat-Ard 1868 days
Rok Dr 1869 days
Sonoranrover 1875 days
Chem409 1890 days
Duncan McDonald 1892 days
joejet 1894 days
Korg 1899 days
Grumpy 1906 days
pedrogb1915 days
OGrid 1927 days
WhiteBear 1931 days, first car outside ANZ
ecohen2 1932 days
Happyoldgit 1933 days
OkGo 1937 days
NixGrenadier 1940 days
ddv 1945 days (Aug 2023)
Fred 1950 days
Camilondo 1953 days
Jeremy966 1967 days
Ex-defender driver 1968 days
TheDocAUS 1968 days (Feb 2024)
Denis M 1975 days
MattG 1989 days
Green Gren 1903 days
Phred 1994 days
douggie 1995 days
Glen 2007 days
Badger4x4 2007 days
Adam 2007 days
Baron van T 2009 days
Silverjay 2022 days
Chris Hilton 2024 days
Tony H 2025 days
Landmannn 2044 days
acky 2048 days
Commodore 2057 days
NeoGTi 2057 days
Greasemonkey 2059 days
Lollo050968 2074 days
Wile E Coyote 2095 days
Dschubba 2097 days
Stu Barnes 2097 days
Manuel4x4 2106 days
Mazeman 2107 days
Tazzieman 2137 days
Logsplitter 2150 days
Skymark 2156 days
Emil 2190 days
Ron50 2253 days
Clark Kent 2367 days
C-Mack 2458 days

Steve B and Jean Mercier no alert.

INEOS has acknowledged the issue here.

C-Mack still in the lead with the Chook as tail end Charlie. Wile E Coyote is doing much better than when he takes on the Roadrunner.

55 members listed so far, from lowest to highest number of days. If I missed you tell me.

More wild speculation . . .

. . . so if INEOS only used a 10-bit two's complement for signed binaries, they would truncate values with modulus 1024 (keep subtracting 1024 until you get a number smaller than 1024). In other words, they don't expect someone to go more than 1024 days (2 years 9-1/2 months) without getting a reset. Using that scheme, I generated a table showing the error message days in the first column and your expected service date in the far right column. Does this jive with reality for anyone?

Error Msg / Modulo 1024 / 10-bit Binary / Days Since Service Due / Service Due Date

1840 816 1100110000 -208 Jul 28, 2026

1841 817 1100110001 -207 Jul 27, 2026

1852 828 1100111100 -196 Jul 16, 2026

1852 828 1100111100 -196 Jul 16, 2026

1868 844 1101001100 -180 Jun 30, 2026

1869 845 1101001101 -179 Jun 29, 2026

1890 866 1101100010 -158 Jun 08, 2026

1892 868 1101100100 -156 Jun 06, 2026

1894 870 1101100110 -154 Jun 04, 2026

1899 875 1101101011 -149 May 30, 2026

1906 882 1101110010 -142 May 23, 2026

1915 891 1101111011 -133 May 14, 2026

1927 903 1110000111 -121 May 02, 2026

1931 907 1110001011 -117 Apr 28, 2026

1932 908 1110001100 -116 Apr 27, 2026

1933 909 1110001101 -115 Apr 26, 2026

1937 913 1110010001 -111 Apr 22, 2026

1940 916 1110010100 -108 Apr 19, 2026

1945 921 1110011001 -103 Apr 14, 2026

1950 926 1110011110 -98 Apr 09, 2026

1953 929 1110100001 -95 Apr 06, 2026

1967 943 1110101111 -81 Mar 23, 2026

1968 944 1110110000 -80 Mar 22, 2026

1968 944 1110110000 -80 Mar 22, 2026

1975 951 1110110111 -73 Mar 15, 2026

1989 965 1111000101 -59 Mar 01, 2026

1903 879 1101101111 -145 May 26, 2026

1994 970 1111001010 -54 Feb 24, 2026

1995 971 1111001011 -53 Feb 23, 2026

2007 983 1111010111 -41 Feb 11, 2026

2007 983 1111010111 -41 Feb 11, 2026

2007 983 1111010111 -41 Feb 11, 2026

2009 985 1111011001 -39 Feb 09, 2026

2022 998 1111100110 -26 Jan 27, 2026

2024 1000 1111101000 -24 Jan 25, 2026

2025 1001 1111101001 -23 Jan 24, 2026

2044 1020 1111111100 -4 Jan 05, 2026

2048 0 0000000000 0 Jan 01, 2026

2057 9 0000001001 9 Dec 23, 2025

2057 9 0000001001 9 Dec 23, 2025

2059 11 0000001011 11 Dec 21, 2025

2074 26 0000011010 26 Dec 06, 2025

2095 47 0000101111 47 Nov 15, 2025

2097 49 0000110001 49 Nov 13, 2025

2097 49 0000110001 49 Nov 13, 2025

2106 58 0000111010 58 Nov 04, 2025

2107 59 0000111011 59 Nov 03, 2025

2137 89 0001011001 89 Oct 04, 2025

2150 102 0001100110 102 Sep 21, 2025

2156 108 0001101100 108 Sep 15, 2025

2190 142 0010001110 142 Aug 12, 2025

2253 205 0011001101 205 Jun 10, 2025

2367 319 0100111111 319 Feb 16, 2025

2458 410 0110011010 410 Nov 17, 2024

Notice that users who got an error message of >=2048 would have already received a legitimate service due message on or before Jan 1, 2026.

 

[Znarfgh]

1897 days here - at least there is no annoying bong (yet)

 

[Tazzieman]

More wild speculation . . .

. . . so if INEOS only used a 10-bit two's complement for signed binaries, they would truncate values with modulus 1024 (keep subtracting 1024 until you get a number smaller than 1024). In other words, they don't expect someone to go more than 1024 days (2 years 9-1/2 months) without getting a reset. Using that scheme, I generated a table showing the error message days in the first column and your expected service date in the far right column. Does this jive with reality for anyone?

Error Msg    Modulo 1024    10-bit Binary    Days Since Service Due    Service Due Date
1840    816    1100110000    -208    Jul 28, 2026
1841    817    1100110001    -207    Jul 27, 2026
1852    828    1100111100    -196    Jul 16, 2026
1852    828    1100111100    -196    Jul 16, 2026
1868    844    1101001100    -180    Jun 30, 2026
1869    845    1101001101    -179    Jun 29, 2026
1890    866    1101100010    -158    Jun 08, 2026
1892    868    1101100100    -156    Jun 06, 2026
1894    870    1101100110    -154    Jun 04, 2026
1899    875    1101101011    -149    May 30, 2026
1906    882    1101110010    -142    May 23, 2026
1915    891    1101111011    -133    May 14, 2026
1927    903    1110000111    -121    May 02, 2026
1931    907    1110001011    -117    Apr 28, 2026
1932    908    1110001100    -116    Apr 27, 2026
1933    909    1110001101    -115    Apr 26, 2026
1937    913    1110010001    -111    Apr 22, 2026
1940    916    1110010100    -108    Apr 19, 2026
1945    921    1110011001    -103    Apr 14, 2026
1950    926    1110011110    -98    Apr 09, 2026
1953    929    1110100001    -95    Apr 06, 2026
1967    943    1110101111    -81    Mar 23, 2026
1968    944    1110110000    -80    Mar 22, 2026
1968    944    1110110000    -80    Mar 22, 2026
1975    951    1110110111    -73    Mar 15, 2026
1989    965    1111000101    -59    Mar 01, 2026
1903    879    1101101111    -145    May 26, 2026
1994    970    1111001010    -54    Feb 24, 2026
1995    971    1111001011    -53    Feb 23, 2026
2007    983    1111010111    -41    Feb 11, 2026
2007    983    1111010111    -41    Feb 11, 2026
2007    983    1111010111    -41    Feb 11, 2026
2009    985    1111011001    -39    Feb 09, 2026
2022    998    1111100110    -26    Jan 27, 2026
2024   1000    1111101000    -24    Jan 25, 2026
2025   1001    1111101001    -23    Jan 24, 2026
2044   1020    1111111100    -4    Jan 05, 2026
2048      0    0000000000    0    Jan 01, 2026
2057      9    0000001001    9    Dec 23, 2025
2057      9    0000001001    9    Dec 23, 2025
2059     11    0000001011    11    Dec 21, 2025
2074     26    0000011010    26    Dec 06, 2025
2095     47    0000101111    47    Nov 15, 2025
2097     49    0000110001    49    Nov 13, 2025
2097     49    0000110001    49    Nov 13, 2025
2106     58    0000111010    58    Nov 04, 2025
2107     59    0000111011    59    Nov 03, 2025
2137     89    0001011001    89    Oct 04, 2025
2150    102    0001100110    102    Sep 21, 2025
2156    108    0001101100    108    Sep 15, 2025
2190    142    0010001110    142    Aug 12, 2025
2253    205    0011001101    205    Jun 10, 2025
2367    319    0100111111    319    Feb 16, 2025
2458    410    0110011010    410    Nov 17, 2024

Notice that users who got an error message of >=2048 would have already received a legitimate service due message on or before Jan 1, 2026.

Enough of the wild speculation!

 

[Rok_Dr]

More wild speculation . . .

. . . so if INEOS only used a 10-bit two's complement for signed binaries, they would truncate values with modulus 1024 (keep subtracting 1024 until you get a number smaller than 1024). In other words, they don't expect someone to go more than 1024 days (2 years 9-1/2 months) without getting a reset. Using that scheme, I generated a table showing the error message days in the first column and your expected service date in the far right column. Does this jive with reality for anyone?

Error Msg    Modulo 1024    10-bit Binary    Days Since Service Due    Service Due Date
1840    816    1100110000    -208    Jul 28, 2026
1841    817    1100110001    -207    Jul 27, 2026
1852    828    1100111100    -196    Jul 16, 2026
1852    828    1100111100    -196    Jul 16, 2026
1868    844    1101001100    -180    Jun 30, 2026
1869    845    1101001101    -179    Jun 29, 2026
1890    866    1101100010    -158    Jun 08, 2026
1892    868    1101100100    -156    Jun 06, 2026
1894    870    1101100110    -154    Jun 04, 2026
1899    875    1101101011    -149    May 30, 2026
1906    882    1101110010    -142    May 23, 2026
1915    891    1101111011    -133    May 14, 2026
1927    903    1110000111    -121    May 02, 2026
1931    907    1110001011    -117    Apr 28, 2026
1932    908    1110001100    -116    Apr 27, 2026
1933    909    1110001101    -115    Apr 26, 2026
1937    913    1110010001    -111    Apr 22, 2026
1940    916    1110010100    -108    Apr 19, 2026
1945    921    1110011001    -103    Apr 14, 2026
1950    926    1110011110    -98    Apr 09, 2026
1953    929    1110100001    -95    Apr 06, 2026
1967    943    1110101111    -81    Mar 23, 2026
1968    944    1110110000    -80    Mar 22, 2026
1968    944    1110110000    -80    Mar 22, 2026
1975    951    1110110111    -73    Mar 15, 2026
1989    965    1111000101    -59    Mar 01, 2026
1903    879    1101101111    -145    May 26, 2026
1994    970    1111001010    -54    Feb 24, 2026
1995    971    1111001011    -53    Feb 23, 2026
2007    983    1111010111    -41    Feb 11, 2026
2007    983    1111010111    -41    Feb 11, 2026
2007    983    1111010111    -41    Feb 11, 2026
2009    985    1111011001    -39    Feb 09, 2026
2022    998    1111100110    -26    Jan 27, 2026
2024   1000    1111101000    -24    Jan 25, 2026
2025   1001    1111101001    -23    Jan 24, 2026
2044   1020    1111111100    -4    Jan 05, 2026
2048      0    0000000000    0    Jan 01, 2026
2057      9    0000001001    9    Dec 23, 2025
2057      9    0000001001    9    Dec 23, 2025
2059     11    0000001011    11    Dec 21, 2025
2074     26    0000011010    26    Dec 06, 2025
2095     47    0000101111    47    Nov 15, 2025
2097     49    0000110001    49    Nov 13, 2025
2097     49    0000110001    49    Nov 13, 2025
2106     58    0000111010    58    Nov 04, 2025
2107     59    0000111011    59    Nov 03, 2025
2137     89    0001011001    89    Oct 04, 2025
2150    102    0001100110    102    Sep 21, 2025
2156    108    0001101100    108    Sep 15, 2025
2190    142    0010001110    142    Aug 12, 2025
2253    205    0011001101    205    Jun 10, 2025
2367    319    0100111111    319    Feb 16, 2025
2458    410    0110011010    410    Nov 17, 2024

Notice that users who got an error message of >=2048 would have already received a legitimate service due message on or before Jan 1, 2026.

Unfortunately that doesn’t give the correct service due date for my error 1869. I’m due next in late November this year

 

[pipo]

2149 days - right between @Tazzieman and @Logsplitter, excellent company.

Previously it showed some 40-ish days until actual scheduled service.

 

[mirwantandyo]

2668 Day.

Never had a dealer service or reset either as there's no dealer at all here in Indonesia.

 

[Green Gren]

I’d me more worried about your 56 missed calls.

I’m young (-ish), I don’t take calls. Just text.

 

[Johnb]

The Tazzie Devil is crushed by Superman. Wile E Coyote did better than he normally does against the Roadrunner.

Chook roasts Rok Dr for the lowest number of days.

First car outside ANZ makes an appearance, with White Bear smoking his peace pipe. Problem not limited to AU firmware.

POX TALLY (Updated)
Chook 1840 days
Itsdchz 1841 days, first US car to get the pox
Rok Dr 1869 days
Korg 1899 days
pedrogb1915 days
WhiteBear 1931 days, first car outside ANZ
NixGrenadier 1940 days
ddv 1945 days (Aug 2023)
Fred 1950 days
Camilondo 1953 days
Ex-defender driver 1968 days
TheDocAUS 1968 days (Feb 2024)
douggie 1995 days
Badger4x4 2007 days
acky 2048 days
NeoGTi 2057 days
Wile E Coyote 2095 days
Dschubba 2097 days
Tazzieman 2137 days
Clark Kent 2367 days

All numbers remain above 1800 and all are still 4 digits. Only one number has been repeated 1968. And why this year when it did not occur last year?

Mine today 1950 Johnb

 

[TJ D]

Dammit, only 1985 days here. I feel like such an underachiever.

 

[TJ D]

TALLY (Updated)
Chook 1840 days
Itsdchz 1841 days, first US car with the pox
BrandonADV 1852 days
TahoeGren 1852 days
Pat-Ard 1868 days
Rok Dr 1869 days
Sonoranrover 1875 days
Chem409 1890 days
Duncan McDonald 1892 days
joejet 1894 days
Korg 1899 days
Grumpy 1906 days
pedrogb1915 days
OGrid 1927 days
WhiteBear 1931 days, first car outside ANZ
ecohen2 1932 days
Happyoldgit 1933 days
OkGo 1937 days
NixGrenadier 1940 days
ddv 1945 days (Aug 2023)
Tergosa 1946 days
Fred 1950 days
Camilondo 1953 days
Jeremy966 1967 days
Ex-defender driver 1968 days
TheDocAUS 1968 days (Feb 2024)
Denis M 1975 days
MattG 1989 days
Green Gren 1903 days
Phred 1994 days
douggie 1995 days
Glen 2007 days
Badger4x4 2007 days
Adam 2007 days
Baron van T 2009 days
Silverjay 2022 days
Chris Hilton 2024 days
Tony H 2025 days
Landmannn 2044 days
acky 2048 days
Commodore 2057 days
NeoGTi 2057 days
Greasemonkey 2059 days
Lollo050968 2074 days
Wile E Coyote 2095 days
Dschubba 2097 days
Stu Barnes 2097 days
Manuel4x4 2106 days
Mazeman 2107 days
Tazzieman 2137 days
Logsplitter 2150 days
Skymark 2156 days
Emil 2190 days
Ron50 2253 days
Clark Kent 2367 days
C-Mack 2458 days

NET ZERO
Steve B and Jean Mercier have no alert.

INEOS TALKS
INEOS has acknowledged the issue here.

SUMMARY
C-Mack still in the lead with the Chook as tail end Charlie. Wile E Coyote is doing much better than when he takes on the Roadrunner.

56 members listed so far, from lowest to highest number of days. Only 2 members with no alert.

If I missed you tell me.

1985 here. fully mediocre.

 

[Glen]

Enough of the wild speculation!

Just look away. No soup puzzles for you!

 

[bigleonski]

2250 days
2041km

 

[TheDocAUS]

TALLY (Updated)
Chook 1840 days
Itsdchz 1841 days, first US car with the pox
BrandonADV 1852 days
TahoeGren 1852 days
Pat-Ard 1868 days
Rok Dr 1869 days
Sonoranrover 1875 days
Chem409 1890 days
Duncan McDonald 1892 days
joejet 1894 days
Korg 1899 days
Grumpy 1906 days
pedrogb1915 days
OGrid 1927 days
singlefin 1927 days
WhiteBear 1931 days, first car outside ANZ
ecohen2 1932 days
Happyoldgit 1933 days
OkGo 1937 days
NixGrenadier 1940 days
ddv 1945 days (Aug 2023)
Tergosa 1946 days
Fred 1950 days
Camilondo 1953 days
Jeremy966 1967 days
Ex-defender driver 1968 days
TheDocAUS 1968 days (Feb 2024)
Denis M 1975 days
MattG 1989 days
Green Gren 1903 days
TJD 1985 days
Phred 1994 days
douggie 1995 days
Glen 2007 days
Badger4x4 2007 days
Adam 2007 days
Baron van T 2009 days
Silverjay 2022 days
Chris Hilton 2024 days
Tony H 2025 days
Landmannn 2044 days
acky 2048 days
Commodore 2057 days
NeoGTi 2057 days
Greasemonkey 2059 days
Lollo050968 2074 days
Wile E Coyote 2095 days
Dschubba 2097 days
Stu Barnes 2097 days
Manuel4x4 2106 days
Mazeman 2107 days
Tazzieman 2137 days
pipo 2149 days
Logsplitter 2150 days
Skymark 2156 days
Emil 2190 days
bigleonski 2250 days
Ron50 2253 days
Clark Kent 2367 days
C-Mack 2458 days
mirwantandyo 2668 days

NET ZERO
Steve B and Jean Mercier have no alert.

INEOS TALKS
INEOS has acknowledged the issue here.

SUMMARY
Big Mack gets run over by mirwantandyo on the leaderboard, Chook is still tail-end Charlie.

61 members listed so far, from lowest to highest number of days. Only 2 members with no alert.

If I missed you tell me.

 

[singlefin]

1927d here

 

[landmannnn]

Is this the millennium bug finally showing up - just a quarter of a century late?

There is something called the "2038 Problem" where millions of 32 bit processors will run out of code in January 2038. I suspect it may be something like that rather than Y2K.

 

[C-Mack]

TALLY (Updated)
Chook 1840 days
Itsdchz 1841 days, first US car with the pox
BrandonADV 1852 days
TahoeGren 1852 days
Pat-Ard 1868 days
Rok Dr 1869 days
Sonoranrover 1875 days
Chem409 1890 days
Duncan McDonald 1892 days
joejet 1894 days
Korg 1899 days
Grumpy 1906 days
pedrogb1915 days
OGrid 1927 days
singlefin 1927 days
WhiteBear 1931 days, first car outside ANZ
ecohen2 1932 days
Happyoldgit 1933 days
OkGo 1937 days
NixGrenadier 1940 days
ddv 1945 days (Aug 2023)
Tergosa 1946 days
Fred 1950 days
Camilondo 1953 days
Jeremy966 1967 days
Ex-defender driver 1968 days
TheDocAUS 1968 days (Feb 2024)
Denis M 1975 days
MattG 1989 days
Green Gren 1903 days
TJD 1985 days
Phred 1994 days
douggie 1995 days
Glen 2007 days
Badger4x4 2007 days
Adam 2007 days
Baron van T 2009 days
Silverjay 2022 days
Chris Hilton 2024 days
Tony H 2025 days
Landmannn 2044 days
acky 2048 days
Commodore 2057 days
NeoGTi 2057 days
Greasemonkey 2059 days
Lollo050968 2074 days
Wile E Coyote 2095 days
Dschubba 2097 days
Stu Barnes 2097 days
Manuel4x4 2106 days
Mazeman 2107 days
Tazzieman 2137 days
pipo 2149 days
Logsplitter 2150 days
Skymark 2156 days
Emil 2190 days
bigleonski 2250 days
Ron50 2253 days
Clark Kent 2367 days
C-Mack 2458 days
mirwantandyo 2668 days

NET ZERO
Steve B and Jean Mercier have no alert.

INEOS TALKS
INEOS has acknowledged the issue here.

SUMMARY
Big Mack gets run over by mirwantandyo on the leaderboard, Chook is still tail-end Charlie.

61 members listed so far, from lowest to highest number of days. Only 2 members with no alert.

If I missed you tell me.

Oh the humanity!!!! It was fun while it lasted.