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Greg Clark INEOS Automotive USA Chat (webinar series)

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I think there's a few comments on this thread:


but it's probably significant enough for it's own thread. The idea is excellent, as is the style of presentation. I'll probably have to listen again to try and remember all the relevant info.

I'm assuming it's open to questions from all regions, not just the Americas.

One thing I did pick up on was with regard to the double cab. It looked like he was about to give a little detail but was cut off in the edit!
He mentioned lane change assist oh no.
 

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Just watched the Greg Clark Ineos webinar. Fantastic and answered a lot of questions. I hope they keep it up! A little annoyed by the dismissiveness regarding manual transmissions, but I'll let it slide. (slip?) 😉
 

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I asked about removable jump seats for the cargo area, he answered no troop seats. Learned what they are called today
 

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Maybe aftermarket? They'd be cool, but the liability issues. If people would just use common sense! 😖
 

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Does anyone know more about why Greg said at 21:50 in the video linked in the OP post that Ineos would not be offering a Bull/Roo/Brush Bar in the U.S. Market? Unless something has recently changed, such bars are legal in the U.S. Greg said the bar would not comply with U.S. Crash Safety or Pedestrian Safety regulations. I think either he's mistaken or there's something about the design of the Ineos bar and how it attaches to the front bumper that does not comply with applicable regs. Anyone know more? I'm not too worried, since I expect ARB and others will offer excellent aftermarket selections, but am curious nonetheless.
 

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Does anyone know more about why Greg said at 21:50 in the video linked in the OP post that Ineos would not be offering a Bull/Roo/Brush Bar in the U.S. Market? Unless something has recently changed, such bars are legal in the U.S. Greg said the bar would not comply with U.S. Crash Safety or Pedestrian Safety regulations. I think either he's mistaken or there's something about the design of the Ineos bar and how it attaches to the front bumper that does not comply with applicable regs. Anyone know more? I'm not too worried, since I expect ARB and others will offer excellent aftermarket selections, but am curious nonetheless.
Speaking as a Brit, so not mega clued up on US regs, but I've never seen a bullbar on a stock car or truck out the factory. Sure they're legal, but are they legal when the car is "as produced from manufacturer" ?

Ie not aftermarket or dealer fitted
 

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Thanks, Spjnr. You can order a Ford Bronco with a heavy duty front bumper and brush guard in the U.S. market. I think there's more to the story here.
 

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Technically in Australia the Roo Bar is an accessory sold/supplied by INEOS, but installed by the Agent. This would mean that it would be treated as an aftermarket product in Australia, as the fitting would be done after the "ADR Compliance Plate" has been placed on the vehicle.
 

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Maybe in the USA for crash safety the front bumper is the European one. The bar is designed for the metal bumper
 

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My guess is that it will be the plastic bumper.
 

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Do you think trucks with the plastic bumpers will have different front shocks/springs because the bumper is much lighter? Or will adding an after market steel bumper not require changing them when adding a steel bumper?
 

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Do you change your shocks/springs every time you fuel up?
And what about driver differences from 70 Kg to 120 Kg or even more?
One or more passengers - or not?

None of these situations will change the maximum weight of the car and thus be in the corridor for which the car was built.
 

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Technically in Australia the Roo Bar is an accessory sold/supplied by INEOS, but installed by the Agent. This would mean that it would be treated as an aftermarket product in Australia, as the fitting would be done after the "ADR Compliance Plate" has been placed on the vehicle.
I hope they provide a way to sell the Roo Bar as an accessory to the USA market. It's an accessory I really want for mine. I know the new LR Defender has an OEM roo bar/bull guard you can have shipped from Australia from a website but is $2-3,000.00 to just ship to the USA. Fingers crossed INEOS has a way to sell as an accessory direct in the USA market without the high shipping cost. There is a market for them, especially in Texas.
 

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Do you change your shocks/springs every time you fuel up?
And what about driver differences from 70 Kg to 120 Kg or even more?
One or more passengers - or not?

None of these situations will change the maximum weight of the car and thus be in the corridor for which the car was built.

No. But 125-150 pounds of dead weight on the front side of the wheels is of concern. when folks put heavy duty bumpers on Series trucks and Crusiers they often change the springs.
 

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I see your point as the weight is as far in front of the axle as it could be. But do you really think that the weight difference is that high? I would presume a difference of max 25 kg. But of course you think about new springs as well when you mount a winch.
 

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I agree. With a 70 Kg difference I would probably ask the same question.

But I don't think it's really that much.
 

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A calculation: a piece of rolled plate, 200 cm long, 3 mm strong and 30 cm wide (to fold the bumper profile) weighs 13 Kg.
With a length of 220 cm and 40 cm wide, it weighs no more than 19 Kg.

And there are to subtract the cutouts.


Edit: wording.
 
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