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Americas Front Driveshaft CV redesign

Commodore

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Ineos crew, there is an issue with the front driveshaft CV at the transfer case side. The acute driveline angle generates heat causing the rubber on the CV to rip and spill grease. This leads to failure of the CV joint and ultimately immediate loss of forward propulsion. The failures have been well documented. Do you have plans to redesign this part or should owners start looking for their own permanent solutions?

This is a serious safety concern that needs to be resolved.
 
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Ineos crew, there is an issue with the front driveshaft CV at the transfer case side. The acute driveline angle generates heat causing the rubber on the CV to rip and spill grease. This leads to failure of the CV joint and ultimately immediate loss of forward propulsion. The failures have been well documented. Do you have plans to redesign this part or should owners start looking for their own permanent solutions?

This is a serious safety concern that needs to be resolved.
Lynn didn't have the answer to hand but we discussed the CV joint boots failing by the nature of them operating at their extremes in terms of deflection. She took it back to her engineering team and they replied today.

Propshaft angle a hot topic from...
They added this later.
I had the springs on order as soon as they were available for sale and my truck had not yet been delivered.
There was no warning at that time.
I had my lift installed myself, but many trucks were sold modified, or offered to be dealer modified at purchase.

In the US when a dealer offers modifications or has a modified new vehicle for sale, there is an implied warranty.
Ineos may not have liability due to the lift, but we all know that no dealer sold it with any driveshaft disclaimer.

For the US, this is barely considered lifted. The minimum that typical pickup drivers do is a leveling kit.
It sucks that this small spring change equates to Ineos dismissing the problem.

I still love this thing.
Then the dealer should provide the warranty
 
It's interesting that reading up on CV joints as invented by Mr Rzeppa 100 years ago, that heat management has always been an issue.
I saw that Terraflex has a special grease formulation, presumably to combat this.
 
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Is the drivetrain setup exactly the same on the QM (just a longer rear drive shaft to account for the extra foot of wheelbase?)
 
Most certainly IA is paying particular attention to such a prominent YouTuber putting the QM through its paces so if something did happen involving the front driveshaft how thrilled would IA be to see that? The worst would be if IA offered some sort of special support or assistance just because of the social media exposure at play.

Would the rest of us mere mortals be able to expect the same kind of treatment should it occur? IA is going to be biting their nails and walking a fine line on this issue so it’ll be interesting to see what if anything happens should a failure occur and how it gets resolved.
 
I keep reading here that stock, unmodified ones are failing but I’ve not yet read one that has, at least that I remember. Granted, I’ve been reading here consistently only about two months…Will he who experienced his unmodified CV joint fail please stand up and share?
I'm one of those who had a CV boot rip on a Grenadier with an unmodified suspension.
 
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