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Americas Front Driveshaft CV redesign

Commodore

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Ineos crew, there is an issue with the front driveshaft CV at the transfer case side. The acute driveline angle generates heat causing the rubber on the CV to rip and spill grease. This leads to failure of the CV joint and ultimately immediate loss of forward propulsion. The failures have been well documented. Do you have plans to redesign this part or should owners start looking for their own permanent solutions?

This is a serious safety concern that needs to be resolved.
 
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Ineos crew, there is an issue with the front driveshaft CV at the transfer case side. The acute driveline angle generates heat causing the rubber on the CV to rip and spill grease. This leads to failure of the CV joint and ultimately immediate loss of forward propulsion. The failures have been well documented. Do you have plans to redesign this part or should owners start looking for their own permanent solutions?

This is a serious safety concern that needs to be resolved.
Lynn didn't have the answer to hand but we discussed the CV joint boots failing by the nature of them operating at their extremes in terms of deflection. She took it back to her engineering team and they replied today.

Propshaft angle a hot topic from...
It's a long drive from here!
All good road trips in Australia are a long drive, I am doing a 3 month trip next year just to have a long drive, basically Melbourne- Darwin and back
Nothing like a road trip and some quality time in the desert
It was supposed to be in a Grenadier but sadly not until the design/ engineering failures are addressed
 
All good road trips in Australia are a long drive, I am doing a 3 month trip next year just to have a long drive, basically Melbourne- Darwin and back
Nothing like a road trip and some quality time in the desert
It was supposed to be in a Grenadier but sadly not until the design/ engineering failures are addressed
But I have to add a ferry trip and book a long way ahead , and tow.
Easier for Reuben to whack an axle on top of his rig and drop it off to me when he next tours Tassy with the 24/7 crew!
 
Interested how they're changing the caster. The two methods that may be possible to do the job could be they are cutting the axle tube positioning in a fixture sleeving or bracing the tube then rewelding or they are removing the plug welds at the diff housing pressing the axle tubes out then rotating the tubes and then refitting with the aid of a fixture for the new position.
 
Interested how they're changing the caster. The two methods that may be possible to do the job could be they are cutting the axle tube positioning in a fixture sleeving or bracing the tube then rewelding or they are removing the plug welds at the diff housing pressing the axle tubes out then rotating the tubes and then refitting with the aid of a fixture for the new position.
Rueben does like to talk so hopefully I can learn some more in the next week or so.

Further to this, JRace Industries in Townsville put up a video on Facebook and Instagram this week to showcase some Grenadier suspension work they are doing. I grabbed this still image. Looks interesting.



View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DP_B7LmERF_/&ved=2ahUKEwj3t52t376QAxWle_UHHdxCHSwQwqsBegQIFBAE&usg=AOvVaw2s28lV1lZvJULkKHqDZ8uz


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Rueben does like to talk so hopefully I can learn some more in the next week or so.

Further to this, JRace Industries in Townsville put up a video on Facebook and Instagram this week to showcase some Grenadier suspension work they are doing. I grabbed this still image. Looks interesting.



View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DP_B7LmERF_/&ved=2ahUKEwj3t52t376QAxWle_UHHdxCHSwQwqsBegQIFBAE&usg=AOvVaw2s28lV1lZvJULkKHqDZ8uz


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We're currently in Townsville visiting our son. JRace are 5 minutes away so I'll go visit them on Monday.
 
Interested how they're changing the caster. The two methods that may be possible to do the job could be they are cutting the axle tube positioning in a fixture sleeving or bracing the tube then rewelding or they are removing the plug welds at the diff housing pressing the axle tubes out then rotating the tubes and then refitting with the aid of a fixture for the new position.
Apparently they are putting the able on a jig, grinding the welds off that hold the axle tubes into the diff housing, rotating it then welding it back up. DMW have dealers all around Australia. Apparently they will replace the whole front axle on an exchange basis.

Regards
Craig Murray
 
Apparently they are putting the able on a jig, grinding the welds off that hold the axle tubes into the diff housing, rotating it then welding it back up. DMW have dealers all around Australia. Apparently they will replace the whole front axle on an exchange basis.

Regards
Craig Murray
If they are doing exchange housing hopefully there is good quality control particularly for people who send in a brand new housing expecting a brand new housing/assemblies in return because once modified Ineos will likely void any warranty for the axle and diff.
The other thing to consider if rewelding with the diff assembled in the housing if the earth for the welder is in the wrong place there is the risk there will be arcing across the bearing rollers to the race which will cause shortened bearing life. I would like to see the process before committing.
 
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