Front Drive Shaft Update

[Tenac]

There's some rumours the new drive shaft has been changed - or boot changed....any truth to these? Or just wishful thinking....??

With all the noise around it, I think Ineos would probably let people know, last thing you want is potential buyers coming here seeing 90+ pages of front drive shaft failures and simply not address it. So probably wishful thinking.

 

[Logsplitter]

I would like to think they are working on a solution and if they are they are not going to release details, until they are absolutely sure that it’s a reliable fix.

 

[OkGo]

what a sad situation to be in, when owners feel the need to get under their vehicle before and after any long drive to check for a faulty prop shaft CV joint. . This should not be happening on any modern vehicle made for purpose !

Before, after and taking breaks during the drive specifically to check 580 miles today, 3 checks

 

[jvkintheusa]

I don't think the problem is fixable with the current edition. Maybe future editions will have a fix but I don't think current vehicles are fixable.

 

[OkGo]

I don't think the problem is fixable with the current edition. Maybe future editions will have a fix but I don't think current vehicles are fixable.

Surely that can't be an acceptable end point

 

[jvkintheusa]

Surely that can't be an acceptable end point

100% it is not acceptable

 

[Dokatd]

100% it is not acceptable

But it's likely the reality. At least from Ineos anyways. A recall would be disastrous.

The aftermarket will have to fix the problem. Best we can realistically hope for is that we are the public beta testers for the next Gen and Ineos continues to deliver vehicles. Worst, they shutter and we are left with massively depreciated hulks. But, an appreciation swing could come 15yrs later if we are lucky.

I do very much think the aftermarket will solve this way way way before Ineos. But only due to politics, I'm sure Ineos could solve it over night or has solved it. But again Politics.

 

[Commodore]

But it's likely the reality. At least from Ineos anyways. A recall would be disastrous.

The aftermarket will have to fix the problem. Best we can realistically hope for is that we are the public beta testers for the next Gen and Ineos continues to deliver vehicles. Worst, they shutter and we are left with massively depreciated hulks. But, an appreciation swing could come 15yrs later if we are lucky.

I do very much think the aftermarket will solve this way way way before Ineos. But only due to politics, I'm sure Ineos could solve it over night or has solved it. But again Politics.

I’m in contact with a very highly placed executive at IA. He has stated in writing to me that IA engineers are talking to component suppliers. He is supposed to get an update this week. Out of respect I haven’t posted screenshots of our messages.

This means that they know of the issue. What engineers and the components suppliers are going to do is anyone’s guess. I’m sure Dana is pointing at Cararo and both are pointing at Magna. Whoever signed off on that pinion angle is an absolute idiot and isn’t qualified to design a crayon box.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

But they drove these over 1 million miles during testing right ?

 

[theox]

I’m in contact with a very highly placed executive at IA. He has stated in writing to me that IA engineers are talking to component suppliers. He is supposed to get an update this week. Out of respect I haven’t posted screenshots of our messages.

This means that they know of the issue. What engineers and the components suppliers are going to do is anyone’s guess. I’m sure Dana is pointing at Cararo and both are pointing at Magna. Whoever signed off on that pinion angle is an absolute idiot and isn’t qualified to design a crayon box.

At least now we know where Boeing is getting their engineers.

 

[Shoogs]

what a sad situation to be in, when owners feel the need to get under their vehicle before and after any long drive to check for a faulty prop shaft CV joint. . This should not be happening on any modern vehicle made for purpose !

Unfortunately for me that has become the case, if it were just my vehicle alone no issue but as a daily for wife and being slightly remote this is to much of a risk for her, very adept at checking but I don’t expect her to change the shaft or deal with a non existent dealer some 120km away… we had a spare shaft and joints but in the end not reliable enough for us… sad decision as loved it.
Really disappointed…

 

[Dokatd]

But they drove these over 1 million miles during testing right ?

Yeah between 50 test vehicles or more.

 

[Brad@SuperiorCO]

Before the Grenadier I had 2 of the V10 Touareg with air shocks, had clearance to 11.5" when raised. Was a total sleeper in offroading and Moab. It also had CV / prop shaft problems, and when it failed it gave about 5 miles notice. Replaced 2 propshafts in 3-4 years. My wife's was silver, mine was white. This is life. Go have fun.

 

[Commodore]

Before the Grenadier I had 2 of the V10 Touareg with air shocks, had clearance to 11.5" when raised. Was a total sleeper in offroading and Moab. It also had CV / prop shaft problems, and when it failed it gave about 5 miles notice. Replaced 2 propshafts in 3-4 years. My wife's was silver, mine was white. This is life. Go have fun.

View attachment 7923778

Those were great cars

 

[C-Mack]

But they drove these over 1 million miles during testing right ?

Yeah, 1 Million miles of the same mile probably. Sort of like a private pilot who only flys on a sunny calm days out of the same airport and back. Doesn’t really tell you much about their skill or capability if they hit rough stuff or encounter something different.