Episode 15 INEOS CEO Lynn Calder Interview Part 2

[HereinDaRockies]

It was a leap for them to go into automotive and establish a supply chain for automotive expertise and deliverables.

It would be too far of a stretch for them to establish advanced expertise in software

Look at the roll out of access management for the workshop site. Software is not what they do

 

[[ Adam ]]

It was a leap for them to go into automotive and establish a supply chain for automotive expertise and deliverables.

It would be too far of a stretch for them to establish advanced expertise in software

Look at the roll out of access management for the workshop site. Software is not what they do

I don't think you fully understand what I've proposed.

Suffice it to say that if they are able to provide Autel with the capability to update TPMS, reset the service reminder, and an explanation of their proprietary OBD2 DTC's, they can easily "open source" this information without writing a single line of new code, or releasing any other license encumbered code.

 

[OkGo]

An after market firmware. I'm in.

 

[[ Adam ]]

An after market firmware. I'm in.

That would be great, but no - that's not what I'm saying at all.

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Just chiming in, there’s a part 3

The steering pump question wasn’t raised/didn’t get enough votes to make the cut and they’re already 2 versions down the line on the system if not more at this point.

The conversation was, and is a light hearted conversation in a pub. That’s the vibe that we go with and we went with. You’ll find out who Lynn nominates next for a chat. So when that comes around make sure you….

A. Propose a question in good time.
B. Hope people agree with you that it should make it into the schedule. At least 1 from each geographical sales area is included.

This series is essentially an opening getting to know you session for all parties and not a feet to the fire interrogation. We had Lynn for over 3 hours non stop and were earmarked for 1 hour, this podcast also is essentially unedited, the audio is just cleaned up as we were in the most echoey room imaginable, with a squeaky table and the go pros kept shutting down.

Stu.

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Just finish listening to the podcast. Good to keep the conversation moving along. One thing that stood out was in beginning when conversation veer towards dual battery. Lynn slipped in that one reason for discontinued dual battery was a product was being discontinued. I assume she was refurbished to the CTEK 120.

Yep. That particular ctek unit is apparently ending production so they decided not to put more resources into this and let the aftermarket fill the gap. I got the feeling that there was genuine regret at this as they are tying to put out there the most ready out of the box vehicle.

Perhaps it’ll come back. Who knows.

 

[TCMColorado]

The Ctek unit was not great to begin with. A Redarc DCDC charger is a big improvement as is using a lithium battery for the house supply.

 

[DenisM]

The Ctek unit was not great to begin with. A Redarc DCDC charger is a big improvement as is using a lithium battery for the house supply.

There is significant misunderstanding about the role of the ctek120s and the design philosophy behind the secondary battery. It was never intended as a "house" battery as commonly understood. Rather, its role is to maintain the starter battery in prime condition by regular pulse charging.
The ctek120s manages this. It's not intended to be a DC-DC charger as such.

 

[Logsplitter]

There is significant misunderstanding about the role of the ctek120s and the design philosophy behind the secondary battery. It was never intended as a "house" battery as commonly understood. Rather, its role is to maintain the starter battery in prime condition by regular pulse charging.
The ctek120s manages this. It's not intended to be a DC-DC charger as such.

I certainly don’t have an issue with my Ineos dual battery system and have had extended durations off grid. I won’t be considering a change until the original batteries give up.

 

[CRH]

I certainly don’t have an issue with my Ineos dual battery system and have had extended durations off grid. I won’t be considering a change until the original batteries give up.

If anyone wants an unused, still in box CTEK 120, send me a pm.

 

[TCMColorado]

There is significant misunderstanding about the role of the ctek120s and the design philosophy behind the secondary battery. It was never intended as a "house" battery as commonly understood. Rather, its role is to maintain the starter battery in prime condition by regular pulse charging.
The ctek120s manages this. It's not intended to be a DC-DC charger as such.

My point is that a house battery with a a DC DC charger is superior system to the “support” configuration of the CTEK setup. It certainly works as intended but a traditional dual battery setup is better for most overland travel. Hauling around a second ~100 pound battery just to support the main battery is not an efficient use of payload or optimal design when multiple auxiliary electrical loads are needed.

 

[parb]

I think overall the dual battery design could have been implemented better. I was happy it existed but I don't think it was the best choice possible.

I have similar feelings about the battery disconnect procedure, it's crazy to me that software in this day and age isn't designed for crash consistency (yes, that is a real technical term).

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Just chiming in, there’s a part 3

The steering pump question wasn’t raised/didn’t get enough votes to make the cut and they’re already 2 versions down the line on the system if not more at this point.

Whether they still have the issue in latest revision is not the point (2025 exhibits the whine still)

The point is whether Ineos plan on make current owners whole in terms of the highly disruptive power steering whine.

I am sure it got more votes than missing vanity mirrors?

Appreciate the interview effort.. but disappointed in what she had externalized thus far

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Whether they still have the issue in latest revision is not the point (2025 exhibits the whine still)

The point is whether Ineos plan on make current owners whole in terms of the highly disruptive power steering whine.

I am sure it got more votes than missing vanity mirrors?

Appreciate the interview effort.. but disappointed in what she had externalized thus far

The question from the North American area was about the drive shafts, steering pumps didn't get enough traction at the time of the interview.

 

[grnamin]

Does anyone know of a vehicle from a different manufacturer designed so the owner can't reset the service reminder on their own?

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Does anyone know of a vehicle from a different manufacturer designed so the owner can't reset the service reminder on their own?

According to ai:

Only certain **2023 and 2024 Kia vehicles** are currently known for restricting service reminder resets to the dealer, according to firsthand reports from owners and technicians stating that these models are defaulted so that only the dealership can perform the reset of the service or maintenance reminder in the vehicle’s system[1]. In these cases, the ability to reset the reminder is not accessible through owner menus or simple dashboard sequences, and requires dealer-only equipment or direct intervention.

## Example: Recent Kia Models
- Reports specifically mention that on some 2023 and 2024 Kia Seltos (and possibly other Kia vehicles), the option to reset the maintenance reminder is only enabled or accessible by the dealer, possibly using factory diagnostic equipment or a dealer technician’s tablet[1].
- Owners have stated that even after performing their own maintenance, they were unable to clear the service warning without a dealer visit[1].

## Other Brands and Typical Practices
- Most other vehicle brands allow owners or independent mechanics to reset service reminders through dashboard procedures, OBD2 tools, or aftermarket scan devices[2][3].
- Occasionally, some luxury brands (like BMW or certain Volkswagen and Land Rover models) may require a scan tool, but not strictly dealer-only equipment—independent workshops can usually perform the reset with the right tool and software[2][4].

## When Dealer Reset Is Required
- If a vehicle's owner manual and the in-car menus do not allow for a reset, and third-party scan tools fail to clear the reminder, this is a strong indication that a **dealer-only reset is required**[1][4].
- This policy is often intended to promote dealership servicing and to ensure that only authorized personnel can confirm maintenance completion.

In short, while most vehicles do not require a **dealer-only** reset, some **late-model Kias** (2023–2024) enforce this restriction by default, and it may apply to other vehicles in the future as manufacturers lock down service functions[1].

Sources
[1] Has anyone figured out how to turn the service required light off https://www.seltosforum.com/threads...-to-turn-the-service-required-light-off.1453/
[2] Can independent mechanics reset service notifications? : r/BmwTech

https://www.reddit.com/r/BmwTech/comments/pxa2sa/can_independent_mechanics_reset_service

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/BmwTech/comments/pxa2sa/can_independent_mechanics_reset_service/

[3] How to reset my cars service and oil warnings without seeming weird.

https://www.reddit.com/r/drivingUK/comments/1jc4286/how_to_reset_my_cars_service_and_oil_warnings

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/drivingUK/comments/1jc4286/how_to_reset_my_cars_service_and_oil_warnings/

[4] Service Dept Unable to Reset Service Reminder https://www.vwidtalk.com/threads/service-dept-unable-to-reset-service-reminder.12607/
[5] Dealer refuses to clear service due light after service was performed? https://www.macanforum.com/threads/...due-light-after-service-was-performed.190052/
[6] Dealership Forget To Reset Your Maintenance Required Indicator In ...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PokPfzxHfc4

[7] How to Reset Service or Maintenance Screen on Modern Cars and ...

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce2XXtUbK6Y

[8] How to reset service notice - BMW M2 Forum - Bimmerpost https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2010281
[9] How to reset "service required" message - Range Rovers Forum https://www.rangerovers.net/threads/how-to-reset-service-required-message.277762/
[10] Cannot reset oil service? - Bimmerforums - The Ultimate BMW Forum https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2428452-Cannot-reset-oil-service