Episode 15 INEOS CEO Lynn Calder Interview Part 2

[HereinDaRockies]

It was a leap for them to go into automotive and establish a supply chain for automotive expertise and deliverables.

It would be too far of a stretch for them to establish advanced expertise in software

Look at the roll out of access management for the workshop site. Software is not what they do

 

[[ Adam ]]

It was a leap for them to go into automotive and establish a supply chain for automotive expertise and deliverables.

It would be too far of a stretch for them to establish advanced expertise in software

Look at the roll out of access management for the workshop site. Software is not what they do

I don't think you fully understand what I've proposed.

Suffice it to say that if they are able to provide Autel with the capability to update TPMS, reset the service reminder, and an explanation of their proprietary OBD2 DTC's, they can easily "open source" this information without writing a single line of new code, or releasing any other license encumbered code.

 

[OkGo]

An after market firmware. I'm in.

 

[[ Adam ]]

An after market firmware. I'm in.

That would be great, but no - that's not what I'm saying at all.

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Just chiming in, there’s a part 3

The steering pump question wasn’t raised/didn’t get enough votes to make the cut and they’re already 2 versions down the line on the system if not more at this point.

The conversation was, and is a light hearted conversation in a pub. That’s the vibe that we go with and we went with. You’ll find out who Lynn nominates next for a chat. So when that comes around make sure you….

A. Propose a question in good time.
B. Hope people agree with you that it should make it into the schedule. At least 1 from each geographical sales area is included.

This series is essentially an opening getting to know you session for all parties and not a feet to the fire interrogation. We had Lynn for over 3 hours non stop and were earmarked for 1 hour, this podcast also is essentially unedited, the audio is just cleaned up as we were in the most echoey room imaginable, with a squeaky table and the go pros kept shutting down.

Stu.

 

[Stu_Barnes]

Just finish listening to the podcast. Good to keep the conversation moving along. One thing that stood out was in beginning when conversation veer towards dual battery. Lynn slipped in that one reason for discontinued dual battery was a product was being discontinued. I assume she was refurbished to the CTEK 120.

Yep. That particular ctek unit is apparently ending production so they decided not to put more resources into this and let the aftermarket fill the gap. I got the feeling that there was genuine regret at this as they are tying to put out there the most ready out of the box vehicle.

Perhaps it’ll come back. Who knows.

 

[TCMColorado]

The Ctek unit was not great to begin with. A Redarc DCDC charger is a big improvement as is using a lithium battery for the house supply.

 

[DenisM]

The Ctek unit was not great to begin with. A Redarc DCDC charger is a big improvement as is using a lithium battery for the house supply.

There is significant misunderstanding about the role of the ctek120s and the design philosophy behind the secondary battery. It was never intended as a "house" battery as commonly understood. Rather, its role is to maintain the starter battery in prime condition by regular pulse charging.
The ctek120s manages this. It's not intended to be a DC-DC charger as such.

 

[Logsplitter]

There is significant misunderstanding about the role of the ctek120s and the design philosophy behind the secondary battery. It was never intended as a "house" battery as commonly understood. Rather, its role is to maintain the starter battery in prime condition by regular pulse charging.
The ctek120s manages this. It's not intended to be a DC-DC charger as such.

I certainly don’t have an issue with my Ineos dual battery system and have had extended durations off grid. I won’t be considering a change until the original batteries give up.

 

[CRH]

I certainly don’t have an issue with my Ineos dual battery system and have had extended durations off grid. I won’t be considering a change until the original batteries give up.

If anyone wants an unused, still in box CTEK 120, send me a pm.

 

[TCMColorado]

There is significant misunderstanding about the role of the ctek120s and the design philosophy behind the secondary battery. It was never intended as a "house" battery as commonly understood. Rather, its role is to maintain the starter battery in prime condition by regular pulse charging.
The ctek120s manages this. It's not intended to be a DC-DC charger as such.

My point is that a house battery with a a DC DC charger is superior system to the “support” configuration of the CTEK setup. It certainly works as intended but a traditional dual battery setup is better for most overland travel. Hauling around a second ~100 pound battery just to support the main battery is not an efficient use of payload or optimal design when multiple auxiliary electrical loads are needed.

 

[parb]

I think overall the dual battery design could have been implemented better. I was happy it existed but I don't think it was the best choice possible.

I have similar feelings about the battery disconnect procedure, it's crazy to me that software in this day and age isn't designed for crash consistency (yes, that is a real technical term).