Workshop Manuals available?

[acky]

Ineos need to be able to contact the current owner in the event of safety recalls (different to service campaigns). The warranty is also transferable to a new owner. Jump on the website and use the chat to register yourself as the new owner. Once they have a profile set up for you then use the chat again to ask to be invited to register for access to the manuals.

Warranty

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I did! not long after purchasing the Grenny, and they have linked my details but couldnt add the email address, maybe they fixed the issue?
hope so!

 

[Clark Kent]

There are enough members on the forum now, that if we collaborate somehow and copy/download/screenshot, whatever, a particular method of how to do particular I task, such as change a wheel bearing, then maybe we could put our own manual together

A flat file pdf or hard copy would be great. Even enough snippets of 'shared' content could be stacked and stapled into something useful over time. @Rok_Dr will have to retire to work on it full time

But that ignores that the system is live and VIN driven. Stuff like market and region differences, MYxx.x differences, diesel/petrol differences (with the different -51 or -76 transmission), potentially even pre-and post-service campaign differences. All that is curated in real time so the view presented to screen is specific and accurate for that VIN. For sure there is a bunch of stuff that will be common but I recall Justin Hocevar (MD IA Australia) talking about this issue in Brisbane a while back. He made a point about the complexity of selecting and only showing VIN-specific data to the end customer else that customer does something based on the wrong info. Never mind the technical accuracy. We're talking legal ramifications if IA push the wrong content and someone gets hurt because of it.

It will by consequence be data heavy and hardware intensive. I'll probably need to update my Celeron to a Pentium II

 

[OkGo]

I am old enough to remember back in the day when someone like Haynes (?) or Max Ellery would take a vehicle apart and write a manual for it.

Mind you Toyota used to be pretty open about their workshop manuals anyway maybe that helped.

 

[Pat]

Just received this email from Ineos today. Workshop manual 12 months free of charge.

 

[NQ94]

I am old enough to remember back in the day when someone like Haynes (?) or Max Ellery would take a vehicle apart and write a manual for it.

Mind you Toyota used to be pretty open about their workshop manuals anyway maybe that helped.

Toyota and Nissan were easy, just ordered the manuals through the parts counter.

 

[Fab]

Recieved my email today as well, and subscribed.

 

[Rok_Dr]

A flat file pdf or hard copy would be great. Even enough snippets of 'shared' content could be stacked and stapled into something useful over time. @Rok_Dr will have to retire to work on it full time

But that ignores that the system is live and VIN driven. Stuff like market and region differences, MYxx.x differences, diesel/petrol differences (with the different -51 or -76 transmission), potentially even pre-and post-service campaign differences. All that is curated in real time so the view presented to screen is specific and accurate for that VIN. For sure there is a bunch of stuff that will be common but I recall Justin Hocevar (MD IA Australia) talking about this issue in Brisbane a while back. He made a point about the complexity of selecting and only showing VIN-specific data to the end customer else that customer does something based on the wrong info. Never mind the technical accuracy. We're talking legal ramifications if IA push the wrong content and someone gets hurt because of it.

It will by consequence be data heavy and hardware intensive. I'll probably need to update my Celeron to a Pentium II

I somehow doubt you are still running a 1990's vintage PC @Clark Kent

I have already have a backlog of things to do in retirement LOL!
Cheers
Steve

 

[Logsplitter]

A flat file pdf or hard copy would be great. Even enough snippets of 'shared' content could be stacked and stapled into something useful over time. @Rok_Dr will have to retire to work on it full time

But that ignores that the system is live and VIN driven. Stuff like market and region differences, MYxx.x differences, diesel/petrol differences (with the different -51 or -76 transmission), potentially even pre-and post-service campaign differences. All that is curated in real time so the view presented to screen is specific and accurate for that VIN. For sure there is a bunch of stuff that will be common but I recall Justin Hocevar (MD IA Australia) talking about this issue in Brisbane a while back. He made a point about the complexity of selecting and only showing VIN-specific data to the end customer else that customer does something based on the wrong info. Never mind the technical accuracy. We're talking legal ramifications if IA push the wrong content and someone gets hurt because of it.

It will by consequence be data heavy and hardware intensive. I'll probably need to update my Celeron to a Pentium II

Understood I hadn’t really thought of legal stuff just my own needs and as you said in your first paragraph, (Sorry I don’t do paragraphs so take a dead breath) if we can collate the generic stuff for a start that would help many do field fixes and basic servicing that’s a start. I won’t be playing around with engine ,gearbox or sensors so it will suit me if I can take body panels, internal panels and bumpers apart, change brake pads , bearings etc.
what a really want to know is how to take things apart so I can replace parts or get access to do bush fixes for more technical stuff.

 

[OkGo]

Where is the AI joke when you need it most.

Skip the pentium, get the AI Meta glasses instead, train a model on the online fluffing fluff and call yourself Bob.

 

[Clark Kent]

Understood I hadn’t really thought of legal stuff just my own needs and as you said in your first paragraph, (Sorry I don’t do paragraphs so take a dead breath) if we can collate the generic stuff for a start that would help many do field fixes and basic servicing that’s a start. I won’t be playing around with engine ,gearbox or sensors so it will suit me if I can take body panels, internal panels and bumpers apart, change brake pads , bearings etc.
what a really want to know is how to take things apart so I can replace parts or get access to do bush fixes for more technical stuff.

Yep, this is the secret sauce. There is a wedge of content that's sits between owner's manual checks and workshops with specialist tools and facilities. That's the 'field repair' breakdown stuff, like wheel bearings if you can get access to a press. Just getting torque values for fasteners is a good start. We don't yet know how this vehicle is going to age but the Bill and Teds excellent adventure types like you, @globalgregors, @Matt P and others who have been out and worked their vehicle hard enough to accrue some damage and wear are in the box seat to short list some jobs that are candidates for repair instructions.
No one is going to be swapping out a set of pistons in the field but VANOS solenoids are a possibility in a few years time. Etcetera.

 

[landmannnn]

Understood I hadn’t really thought of legal stuff just my own needs and as you said in your first paragraph, (Sorry I don’t do paragraphs so take a dead breath) if we can collate the generic stuff for a start that would help many do field fixes and basic servicing that’s a start. I won’t be playing around with engine ,gearbox or sensors so it will suit me if I can take body panels, internal panels and bumpers apart, change brake pads , bearings etc.
what a really want to know is how to take things apart so I can replace parts or get access to do bush fixes for more technical stuff.

I suspect most of us would agree with you.

Stripping and rebuilding engines, gearboxes, diffs isn't technically difficult given the specialist tools, but I don't think we will be doing that.

Basic things such as brake pads, coolant hoses, alternators don't need a manual although there are often specific bleeding or resetting procedures that we don't necessarily know about.

 

[Tazzieman]

Agree; most mechanical systems are familiar to many of us but it will be good to have more detail when specialist action is required.
Electrics and deep oily stuff should that be required.
I certainly don't need colour pics and 3d just means more fiddly scrolling.
Not good when you're rough oily mitts and old eyes are in the thick of things!
Let alone out of phone range and "forgot to pack starlink".