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Steering falling off? Has this been covered?

I know it's not a proper threadlocker, but because we have a lot of salt on the roads here in Germany during the winter, I sprayed all these bolts with underbody sealant shortly after taking delivery of the INEOS. You do get your hands dirty working on these parts, but it prevents corrosion on the threads and also ensures that water can't get into crevices and damage the threads.

Plus, you notice immediately if a nut comes loose.

If this keeps up, we'll soon have to do a "pre-drive check" before every trip. IMG_3426.jpeg
 
I use torque marking compound on all steering and suspension bolts/joints. This makes it very easy to do a quick glance and determine if something has come loose. If I am only driving on paved roads then the check is done once a month. If on a trip in the back country the check is done daily.
I check my stuff too, but this really shouldn't be a thing. After having it all dealer fixed... and maybe 300 more miles on the car (I don't drive it much) I noticed the tie-rod end backing off again... which in time will have the big jam nut on the track bar moving around. The dealer marked torque with pens... I went ahead and added a small blob of blue loctite then cranked everything back down. I highly doubt it moves again but good grief.
 
I check my stuff too, but this really shouldn't be a thing. After having it all dealer fixed... and maybe 300 more miles on the car (I don't drive it much) I noticed the tie-rod end backing off again... which in time will have the big jam nut on the track bar moving around. The dealer marked torque with pens... I went ahead and added a small blob of blue loctite then cranked everything back down. I highly doubt it moves again but good grief.
If it came loose again that is on the dealer tech for not doing his job. This should not happen but I have zero trust in dealer techs to not fudge shit up. If the nuts are fully torqued to spec Loctite is not needed. But ask any tech, if they are honest they will admit to rarely using torque wrenches.
 
My 46mm wrench finally arrived so I can get some torque on the big nut. I really think the correct solution is to add a second jam nut. There certainly is room for one. Wonder if we can just order the nuts?

In the meantime I’m going with blue loctite because finding the big nut walked all the way to the wrong side of the shaft was not comforting.

Maybe and an aftermarket company can offer a tie rod that has provisions to keep the nuts from loosening. I would certainly buy thar part.
 
My 46mm wrench finally arrived so I can get some torque on the big nut. I really think the correct solution is to add a second jam nut. There certainly is room for one. Wonder if we can just order the nuts?

In the meantime I’m going with blue loctite because finding the big nut walked all the way to the wrong side of the shaft was not comforting.

Maybe and an aftermarket company can offer a tie rod that has provisions to keep the nuts from loosening. I would certainly buy thar part.
A second jam nut doesn't do much for you. The design, poor as it is will stay tight if you torque the jam nuts enough.

I can't stress enough how much I would avoid loctite on these. Corrosion will ultimately lock these up enough as it is and render the tie rod un adjustable in short order. Loctite will just exacerbate the issue and is simply unnecessary.

Early on I dealt with mine all being loose from the factory. I tightened them by hand twice and have not had an issue since. Just get them tight and move on.
 
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