Owl Bull Bar

[Tazzieman]

That's a concerning result for a low speed impact.
The Owl bar has a 3mm steel thickness.
ARB are generally 2.6mm.
I presume the steel composition is the same.
I don't know what conclusion to draw, except heavier isn't necessarily better.
IMO humans in heavy cars are a bigger risk to my car's front end than animals, whether they be bulls, kangaroos, deer or sheep.

 

[Itsdchz]

I've seen the pictures of the crash our member went through.
What surprises me is just how much the bull bar bet itself into the sheet metal of the Grenadier. The pics of the Tesla, which is well worth posting show relatively minor damage whereas the bull bar seems to have not absorbed much/any of the incoming forces.

 

[carlg007]

From my observation after looking at the photos of the crash to me it is evident that the Grenadier front bumper is garbage! I remember the guy who had the incedent in Baha about a year ago when someone backed into his bumper and messed up the cooling system and caused all kinds of problems (only the corner of the bumper was bent). The car is advertised as having steel bumpers but and in my opinion are not built for purpose and they do not hold up in real world situations, I think they should have built them stronger especially as they integrate important cooling features that are vital!
I was considering a bull bar and have looked at several designs but I think it would be best to look for a real bumper that can withstand a 5 mph crash!

 

[CrazyOldMan]

From my observation after looking at the photos of the crash to me it is evident that the Grenadier front bumper is garbage! I remember the guy who had the incedent in Baha about a year ago when someone backed into his bumper and messed up the cooling system and caused all kinds of problems (only the corner of the bumper was bent). The car is advertised as having steel bumpers but and in my opinion are not built for purpose and they do not hold up in real world situations, I think they should have built them stronger especially as they integrate important cooling features that are vital!
I was considering a bull bar and have looked at several designs but I think it would be best to look for a real bumper that can withstand a 5 mph crash!

Definitely over the tips of my skis - but is the issue the bumper, or rather the mounts and crumple zones behind it (which are probably required for pedestrian safety, especially given the upright front line)? So then to @Zimm ‘s point, that means the “bull bar” isn’t really going to provide any body protection - better to think of it just as a brush guard. Or maybe just do a nose wrap and call it a day? I genuinely don’t know whether it provides any functional benefit, or is mostly just about appearances? I mean that as a real question - not rhetorically. I don’t know. In fact, it MIGHT actually cause more damage in a light front collision - which might have been more localized WITHOUT the bull bar.