No roof rack = a different suspension

[anand]

Calibrate must equate to "yes, they can handle the extra weight"

 

[Jean Mercier]

Well yes, getting any useful information is like pulling teeth. This is an earlier reply and I've asked for details of this "calibration":

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I think Laura has a lot of work ...

 

[DCPU]

I've had three or four emails from her today.

 

[emax]

INEOS gives a laughable performance here.

 

[Jean Mercier]

I've had three or four emails from her today.

So, customer support is only Laura?

 

[Jean Mercier]

I've had three or four emails from her today.

Thinking about it, in fact it is your fault that she hasn't time to answer my question

 

[Trialmaster]

So, customer support is only Laura?

Lala too, spoke to her today!

 

[Jean Mercier]

Lala too, spoke to her today!

Probably the nickname of Laura

 

[anand]

Probably the nickname of Laura

Only when she doesn't have time to type out her full name because she has more emails to reply to

 

[Jean Mercier]

Only when she doesn't have time to type out her full name because she has more emails to reply to

OK, so you are saying it is my fault?

 

[anand]

OK, so you are saying it is my fault?

Not at all I'm saying that perhaps Laura is given an assistant....

 

[Mercurio]

Just called Ineos Automotive in the UK - the rep whom was very knowledgeable confirmed that the springs ARE different if you have ordered the winch. But there is no difference in springs if the only choice is just a roof rack or not. So hopefully that puts this issue to bed....

How heavy is the winch that requires the springs to be changed?

 

[YellowLab]

I beat this one to death with Ineos - from the engineering manager the only different spring settings would be if you ordered the winch as it adds some ~150 pounds to the front. Roof rack or not options does not change it.

 

[Tom109]

Then why the different rear spring rates? I can tell you from personal experience stiffer springs are needed with heavier roof loads.

 

[YellowLab]

Then why the different rear spring rates?

The engineering head said the only time there are different spring types are if you have a winch or not. No winch - no different springs

 

[DaveB]

I beat this one to death with Ineos - from the engineering manager the only different spring settings would be if you ordered the winch as it adds some ~150 pounds to the front. Roof rack or not options does not change it.

70kgs for the front winch sounds extremely high
I would think around 35kg- 40kg would be closer

 

[YellowLab]

70kgs for the front winch sounds extremely high
I would think around 35kg- 40kg would be closer

Was told that all in - that is the weight - even 100# or 50kg is requires different spring settings.

 

[Tom109]

The engineering head said the only time there are different spring types are if you have a winch or not. No winch - no different springs

From a technical performance perspective, that is completely wrong.

 

[YellowLab]

From a technical performance perspective, that is completely wrong.

Your best bet then is to call Ineos and complain or dig in yourself and see what you can find. I am only repeating what they told me came after calling multiple times. The latest answer came from the head of engineering because this issue has been brought forward by many people

 

[Tom109]

Your best bet then is to call Ineos and complain or dig in yourself and see what you can find. I am only repeating what they told me came after calling multiple times. The latest answer came from the head of engineering because this issue has been brought forward by many people

I just plan to wait and see what is installed on my Gren.