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Same for me!I don't think I have seen one in the last 20 years
Same for me!I don't think I have seen one in the last 20 years
The Porsche 928 was marketed as quicker than an aeroplane for city to city business types. When you factor in airport queues, taxis etc., not wrong - especially today.Yesterday, I had a business trip to München with an ICE. This is the super-duper-fastest-and-best-train of the Deutsche Bahn. The two way ticket was 320 € - which is the same as a flight from Frankfurt to Las Vegas ...
Upon arrival in München it was one hour late.
The ICE is electric.
My local Porsche club was still using them 2 years ago , when I resigned from the committee.Try handing over a cheque in Australia and the sales people would wonder what it is.
I don't think I have seen one in the last 20 years
When you factor in airport queues, taxis etc., not wrong
I take very often the train to go to Brussels or Antwerp, very cheap because I am an old man: 7.20 €. Cheaper than taking my car!But buying a Deutsche Bahn ticket at the PC is a one hour battle as well ...
And apparently, there are also quite some uncertainties with Deutsche Bahn to consider.
I like travelling by train when I am in Europe because you usually arrive in the middle of the city not at an airport 30-40 minutes awayI take very often the train to go to Brussels or Antwerp, very cheap because I am an old man: 7.20 €. Cheaper than taking my car!
They have an app (the railways I mean) and in less than 2 minutes, I think even less than one minute, I have paid and my ticket is on my phone. I would guess Deutsche Bahn has also an app.
But indeed there are uncertainties.
And specially for @emax , another country I have been is Syria on my own, by train from my city through Germany (partly with the ICE, indeed very good!), and through Austria, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria and to the middle of Turkey. The rest of the trip was with small busses, taxis, etc. That was in 2010, the year before the war, I was lucky, saw things that don't exist anymore. Allepo (Halep) was a magical city, so beautiful. I finished in Jordan and Israel. I came back by plane.
Syria was a splendid country with very nice people! But I felt several times that state agents were watching me. Some "friendly" people always asked me where I was going
I didn't do it by car, because it would have taken me double the time, and I was still working full time.
Now, I would do it by car (Grenadier of course), but I guess it is still not everywhere safe.
Plus the 928 is a fantastic vehicle when you can find a good oneMy rough calculations is that it would take nearly 4 hours (more if bladder is weak) by 928 at about 150 euros cost. Surrounded by your own music and body odour.
You would of course have to pay for parking.
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Nice.You mean like my '81 Gentleman's Express , aka "Bruce"? View attachment 7800339
German autobahn I can believe, unfortunately not here.The Porsche 928 was marketed as quicker than an aeroplane for city to city business types. When you factor in airport queues, taxis etc., not wrong - especially today.
Interesting point about NT road restrictions ... some years ago one of the incoming NT govt decided to make some road speed restrictions (Clair Martin I think it was an ex ABC reporter in the NT.) lowering the speed from "No Speed Restrictions" to a max speed of 130kph. The end result after one year was a doubling of the road deaths, yes a doubling because more people were going to sleep over the long distances involved in travelling that part of Australia. I guess at the high speeds the adrenaline flows pretty quickly and keeps you more alert.German autobahn I can believe, unfortunately not here.
Porsche does or has done its hot wether testing in NT Australia, it cycles between no speed limit to 130kmh depending on who is in government, but between Tennant creek and Alice Springs 500km straight road it is more often than not unlimited. I read an article in motor magazine about 10 years ago where five 911 GT4 S Porsches were tested from Darwin to Alice 1500km and then Alice to Ayres Rock, and the average speed was unbelievably a little over 300kmh, including cattle grids one racing car driver chickens out after about 600km siting road tyres and no cage, but a good read.
Perhaps.. @rovie we re moving again in away from thread topic. Please no political topics. We all know.. And road conditions are deteriorating anyway so an IG might be required sooner than later.Unfortunately, the German autobahns will soon be history. The Greens will manage that. We will then organise races there with pedal scooters and walking aid for the handicapped. Rosy prospects.
You are absolutely right!The great thing about the Grenadier is that unlike Porsches and the like , we will not need autobahns to realise the cars potential.
Yes, @klarie , you're right. I just have to block out this "club".Perhaps.. @rovie we re moving again in away from thread topic. Please no political topics. We all know.. And road conditions are deteriorating anyway so an IG might be required sooner than later.
Hope more participants will tell once their IG is gone in production.. Assume still somewhat March if really ok end of February we will see first owners..
Unlike most other vehicles, the Grenadier will be able to realise its potential scrambling over varying terrain to access the autobahn!The great thing about the Grenadier is that unlike Porsches and the like , we will not need autobahns to realise the cars potential.
And we will not be angry that the Grenadier is limited to 160 km/h.Unfortunately, the German autobahns will soon be history. The Greens will manage that. We will then organise races there with pedal scooters and walking aid for the handicapped. Rosy prospects.