Thanks for that statement. So I'm not the only one thinking this. However, still a sad thing. SHort after I was introduced to that project in June 2016 this claim was born and the field was still green and empty. Not a single part existed...so it was possible to do anything.
However, weight is only one topic, it is at is is and of course the car will drive more or less good where no tarmac is. I don't know. At least in the videos I saw, the scenery stops when it becomes interesting.
And of course there is absolutley no problem with people buying what they think they need. Look at me, I must drink a lot of beer or look into Land Rover brochure to believe my cars are the best and reliable.
To be honest, whereas my Td5 has now 450.000 km our Td4 2.2 with 265.000 km just had a major brakedown. Actually it is stripped apart and we're looking at the issues (definitely an oil pressure problem).
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But, I was at least slightly aware of what is coming at me before I bought my first Defender. Over time I accepted what these cars mean and I'm still willing to spend time and money to keep them running. Because I like most aspects of them. Capable offroaders, absolutely suitable for travelling and my personal fun to work on them, upgrading or repairing them. I like that kind of wasting my time. So, fine for me, not fine for others.
1) Can be, must not. That just putting things together won't work.
2) Exactly. The question is, is it better the other way? That must answer everybody for himself, because all cars on the market are just an offer to people to pick what they need or like.
The question is where the manufacturers priorities are? Long existing companies had no other chance than to develop all on their own because when they started there were no Magnas, Ricardos, AVL,s etc. to ask. This way they grew and today they have the machinery. expirience and knowledge to do all that on your own. A new player does not have this possibilities if they have to look at money, at some point and at some time. Fully understandable. No criticism here.
However, I stick to what I said right from the beginning and it is just my personal thing. I knew what the Grenadier should have become and ist hasn't. For a guy like me driving in mud and sand and all that stuff and at the same time travelling with a 4x4 as a camper the promise was the best I've heard for years, knowing that more and more car companies quit their serious capabables 4x4s leaving this market thinned out. Just to see that the result hasn't become what I really hoped for. ANd it will become worse...due to teh Euro 7 exhaust regulations more and more cars will not have 4x4 anmyore, because they won't fullfill the requirements with 4x4. For example, there will be no more 4x4 VW bus anymore.
And keep in mind...Ineos doesn't build the Grenadier on its own. All suppliers have a close look at how Ineos will do, as a wrong decision here could cost the live of an supplier. If they sense that Ineos doesn't get things done, they will think twice about continuing as they all have to finance stuff before writing the invoice.
AWo
