fuel fill adaptor

[portafilter]

hey all.
inside the fuel flap there is an image of a jerry can with apparent instructions to a location for an adaptor INSIDE the vehicle. has anyone found this yet?

 

[4x4Brick #1561]

Instead of trying to lift and not spill my 5 gallon plastic fuel cans on my paint I got a cheap (under $20 ) battery operated pump. I use it when I have to run my house off of a generator and have to refill at top mounted fuel port over a hot generator that has been running for a week due to Houston's hurricanes. Works great so now I pack it with my gas cans and a stool, which I use to get to my storage at the top edge of my rack, and just pump the gas in. From Harbor Freight so the pump is not a forever tool but one every 5-10 years isn't bad.

 

[Eric]

hey all.
inside the fuel flap there is an image of a jerry can with apparent instructions to a location for an adaptor INSIDE the vehicle. has anyone found this yet?
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That's the Adblue, indicating there is a filler attached to the side of the Adblue plastic container. Something that all UK plastic Adblue containers have when sold in the UK. ( and the EU) Because of the ( relatively) common supply of Adblue for domestic cars, it is sold in plastic containers in all garages and supermarkets, in 4-10 litre plastic containers which have a spout on the side of the container

 

[Mr. Largo WINCH]

Bonjour,
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[Logsplitter]

I have a problem filling my petrol Grenadier in the U.K. the fuel filler nozzle keeps clicking off when filling. I don’t remember having that problem on my African travels and don’t know whether the nozzles are a different shape in the U.K. Because of the bend in the fuel filler nozzle I can’t put the nozzle into the filler neck enough it seems to me. Filling takes an eternity as it keeps clicking off regardless of what position I hold the nozzle at or if i only partly squeeze the trigger. Yesterday for instance it clicked off at least 30 times to fill half a tank. Good job I don’t have the issue with error codes when overfilling/topping off the tank as I never know when it’s actually full until I can see fuel at the filler neck!
Do any other Petrol Grenadier owners have this issue ?

 

[Rok_Dr]

hey all.
inside the fuel flap there is an image of a jerry can with apparent instructions to a location for an adaptor INSIDE the vehicle. has anyone found this yet?
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I asked the question of Ineos Australia at the beginning of the year regarding this and the reply was it needed to be bought separately.

For diesel cars in Australia, it’s a essential accessory so you can fill up from truck diesel bowsers. There a number of options available which are detailed in my unofficial manual supplement. Link in signature line.

It’s also worth getting a Adblue adaptor as well.

Cheers
Steve

 

[Shaky]

I have a problem filling my petrol Grenadier in the U.K. the fuel filler nozzle keeps clicking off when filling. I don’t remember having that problem on my African travels and don’t know whether the nozzles are a different shape in the U.K. Because of the bend in the fuel filler nozzle I can’t put the nozzle into the filler neck enough it seems to me. Filling takes an eternity as it keeps clicking off regardless of what position I hold the nozzle at or if i only partly squeeze the trigger. Yesterday for instance it clicked off at least 30 times to fill half a tank. Good job I don’t have the issue with error codes when overfilling/topping off the tank as I never know when it’s actually full until I can see fuel at the filler neck!
Do any other Petrol Grenadier owners have this issue ?

In short Logsplitter, no I don’t and just to confirm mine is a petrol as well.

As a side note I have never had the error codes with over filling either.

My VIN is in the 3200’s if that helps

 

[wbirkenstock]

I have a problem filling my petrol Grenadier in the U.K. the fuel filler nozzle keeps clicking off when filling. I don’t remember having that problem on my African travels and don’t know whether the nozzles are a different shape in the U.K. Because of the bend in the fuel filler nozzle I can’t put the nozzle into the filler neck enough it seems to me. Filling takes an eternity as it keeps clicking off regardless of what position I hold the nozzle at or if i only partly squeeze the trigger. Yesterday for instance it clicked off at least 30 times to fill half a tank. Good job I don’t have the issue with error codes when overfilling/topping off the tank as I never know when it’s actually full until I can see fuel at the filler neck!
Do any other Petrol Grenadier owners have this issue ?

Yep, mine was ok until recently and started doing the same thing. Have you resolved this yet? Possibly a blocked breather pipe perhaps?

 

[Logsplitter]

I’ve never resolved this issue. I’ve now just got used to the pump clicking off every 20secpnds so takes an age to fill up. I will check with the dealer though now you have mentioned a blocked breather maybe.

 

[TheDocAUS]

I’ve never resolved this issue. I’ve now just got used to the pump clicking off every 20secpnds so takes an age to fill up. I will check with the dealer though now you have mentioned a blocked breather maybe.

Try placing the filler nozzle at different positions when filling (I am talking about how far the nozzle is inserted into the filler neck). Sometimes there can be air blocks at certain positions and they are fixed by moving the nozzle position slightly. I worked part time for 6.5 years in a service station, the first 3 years it was a full-service garage and I filled a lot of petrol tanks.

I came across a similar problem with certain cars. Sometimes you may need to hold the nozzle in a strange position to get it to fill properly without air blocks.

 

[Logsplitter]

Thanks but believe me I’ve tried every angle and insertion depth without any success. Sounds crude I know! I’ve now got used to taking ages to fill up.

 

[TheDocAUS]

Thanks but believe me I’ve tried every angle and insertion depth without any success. Sounds crude I know! I’ve now got used to taking ages to fill up.

Definitely not normal.

 

[wbirkenstock]

I’ve never resolved this issue. I’ve now just got used to the pump clicking off every 20secpnds so takes an age to fill up. I will check with the dealer though now you have mentioned a blocked breather maybe.

Same here. The breather is part of the EVAP system and the EVAP (carbon?) filter is right above the rear muffler - not easily accessible.

 

[Logsplitter]

A dealer visit then at some point

 

[DenisM]

Same here. The breather is part of the EVAP system and the EVAP (carbon?) filter is right above the rear muffler - not easily accessible.

FWIW: In case you were wondering about the details of the filler neck : here's an example (diesel) which I removed recently and replaced with a wider tube when I installed a Brown Davis aux. tank.
The plastic breather tube (which has been cut) is approx 13-14mm diameter fixed with a captive blue cap which is has plenty of "play" to allow air to escape.
I sometimes had fuel "regurgitating" but found that wiggling the handpiece to allow more air space usually solved the issue.

 

[Eric]

FWIW: In case you were wondering about the details of the filler neck : here's an example (diesel) which I removed recently and replaced with a wider tube when I installed a Brown Davis aux. tank.
The plastic breather tube (which has been cut) is approx 13-14mm diameter fixed with a captive blue cap which is has plenty of "play" to allow air to escape.
I sometimes had fuel "regurgitating" but found that wiggling the handpiece to allow more air space usually solved the issue.

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Do you know where the breather tube goes to on the diesel? I regularly ( always) brim when filling with no apparent issues.

 

[DenisM]

Do you know where the breather tube goes to on the diesel? I regularly ( always) brim when filling with no apparent issues.

Hi @Eric, to the best of my improving "forgettery", the main tank "fast fill" breather tube was routed directly to the filler neck. I seem to recall "somewhere" that the much lower vapour pressure of diesel compared with petrol, meant that an activated charcoal vapour recovery canister was thus not required for the B57 equipped Grenadier.
DenisM.

 

[Eric]

Hi @Eric, to the best of my improving "forgettery", the main tank "fast fill" breather tube was routed directly to the filler neck. I seem to recall "somewhere" that the much lower vapour pressure of diesel compared with petrol, meant that an activated charcoal vapour recovery canister was thus not required for the B57 equipped Grenadier.
DenisM.

Thanks, that was my thought, but I wasn't 100% sure. I've have been brimming the fuel fill all my long life and I don't think I could change. When it auto cuts off, I've always got to squeeze that extra 3 - 4 litres in.

 

[ECrider]

Thanks, that was my thought, but I wasn't 100% sure. I've have been brimming the fuel fill all my long life and I don't think I could change. When it auto cuts off, I've always got to squeeze that extra 3 - 4 litres in.

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