Episode 15 INEOS CEO Lynn Calder Interview Part 2

[Stu_Barnes]

This is part 2 of a series, we advise to listen to part 1 first.

Join us for the second part of our engaging conversation with Lynn Calder, CEO of INEOS Automotive. We pick up where we left off with Lynn talking about JOB 1 rolling off the production line at Hambach and the team's response to what's next.
In this episode, we discuss dealer networks, servicing partnerships and answer a few of the recent production decisions as well as finally put to bed the question of the Grenadiers RECARO seats and that Jim personally said no vanity mirrors, sorry mum.

#AutomotiveLeadership #Innovation #LynnCalder #INEOSAutomotive

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[[ Adam ]]

I accept the vanity mirror, but the heated steering wheel... Can't wait to listen.

 

[OGrid]

A quote from early on in the podcast…
“So stop worrying about which countries we're entering next and what car we're building next. Just fix the problems” - Lynn

Yes please

 

[Logsplitter]

This is part 2 of a series, we advise to listen to part 1 first.

Join us for the second part of our engaging conversation with Lynn Calder, CEO of INEOS Automotive. We pick up where we left off with Lynn talking about JOB 1 rolling off the production line at Hambach and the team's response to what's next.
In this episode, we discuss dealer networks, servicing partnerships and answer a few of the recent production decisions as well as finally put to bed the question of the Grenadiers RECARO seats and that Jim personally said no vanity mirrors, sorry mum.

#AutomotiveLeadership #Innovation #LynnCalder #INEOSAutomotive

Grenadier Works (the INEOS Automotive) podcast

Automotive Podcast · In the officially unofficial podcast for the INEOS Grenadier, we get to grips with the worlds newest tough as old boots 4x4 and see if it’s really built for purpose. We interview the people that made…

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Lynn is certainly saying all the things I want to hear and it gives me faith in the product and its long term future.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

outlook not good on the HVAC issue. Damn

A lot of fun talk on the inconsequential vanity mirror..

 

[[ Adam ]]

Just finished listening to the entire podcast in the Grenadier as I continue my drive home from Colorado. Great to hear about the potential partnership with autel as they are certainly a leader in the private shop business. That will really go a long way to empowering the local independent shops to work on our vehicles, + brings quite a bit of Peace of mind for long-term owners.

I still really love to see a paper field repair manual that covers some percentage of vehicle repairs in a completely analog format. I'm going to keep repeating this until you tell me to shut up, so....

 

[ppearman]

Have not listen to prt 2 yet, but am so far surprised that there appears to be no discussion on steering whine. Will listen when I get a chance!

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Have not listen to prt 2 yet, but am so far surprised that there appears to be no discussion on steering whine. Will listen when I get a chance!

Nope! Vanity mirrors tho

 

[ADVAW8S]

Just finish listening to the podcast. Good to keep the conversation moving along. One thing that stood out was in beginning when conversation veer towards dual battery. Lynn slipped in that one reason for discontinued dual battery was a product was being discontinued. I assume she was refurbished to the CTEK 120.

 

[DenisM]

etc

I still really love to see a paper field repair manual that covers some percentage of vehicle repairs in a completely analog format. I'm going to keep repeating this until you tell me to shut up, so....

 

[Dlucky]

Have not listen to prt 2 yet, but am so far surprised that there appears to be no discussion on steering whine. Will listen when I get a chance!

Insane that it’s overlooked

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Insane that it’s overlooked

There is no part 3?

Why was time used on filler vanity mirror topic? I don’t even see it being asked in the ama section https://www.theineosforum.com/forums/ineos-automotive-ama-ask-me-anything-forum.908443/

 

[parb]

I liked this part a lot. I really enjoyed hearing the discussion about who owns the customer relationship, Ineos or the dealer? I really like that they seek dealers who take the customer relationship seriously.

And I liked the point she made about work with autel.
Next up is reset check warning lights like abs sensor, or if battery was incorrectly disconnected. That would be neat for a regular shop or advanced hobbyist.

I'm surprised that she thought a redesign of the user interface for user controlled relearn of tpms would trigger a full fault effect analysis and hara analysis (that's what I thought she said). Arentn't those simple asil-A components? How hard can that be to validate, especially if it's hidden behind a semi secret system (turn ignition on three times, flash the light twice and tap the brakes to initiate tpms relearn type of deal)?

Having said that if autel comes through I'll be really happy.

And overall she sounds like she has her head screwed on right. I really appreciate the comments about community and learning from early users.

The AC point was okay, but a bit dissatisfying. Many cars just doesn't work right and it seems like it's been hard to diagnose. Once they are working they are okay, but i think there is room for improvement even with the space constraints. I felt that was not quite as thoughtful as her other answers. There is a difference between good and great. The bar should be targeting good, going beyond tolerable is important. To me she sounded like she wasn't as refined in her response.

I wish she did a quarterly return to the podcast. I would suggest we do a top 5 type of poll of questions / suggestions on the forum that she can decide to answer or not.

Id love to learn about top 5 product improvements they have done that people may not one about. What is Ineos equivalent of elons manufacturing hell?

 

[Commodore]

Not a word about the constantly failing front driveshaft CV. That is actually the only safety issue that I’m aware of and it doesn’t get addressed.

 

[ADVAW8S]

I believe there is at least one more. You never heard the guys say thank you at end. There was no close.

 

[TCMColorado]

Failing front drive shafts is the number one issue that Calder needs to speak to. After that the steering pump whine.

Her feedback regarding TPMS and service indicator resets is promising. Sounds like it will get sorted as the speed warning did. When it will happen is not defined but it appears to be high on the priority list. Maybe using a diagnostic tool (available to purchase) and not necessarily a feature added to the head unit but that will satisfy most owners.

The HVAC feedback was disappointing. She basically said substantial improvements are not likely to happen, at best only incremental changes that make it less annoying. And maybe only in future model years, not necessarily something that can be implemented in vehicles already in the hands of owners.

 

[Dlucky]

Failing front drive shafts is the number one issue that Calder needs to speak to. After that the steering pump whine.

Her feedback regarding TPMS and service indicator resets is promising. Sounds like it will get sorted as the speed warning did. When it will happen is not defined but it appears to be high on the priority list. Maybe using a diagnostic tool (available to purchase) and not necessarily a feature added to the head unit but that will satisfy most owners.

The HVAC feedback was disappointing. She basically said substantial improvements are not likely to happen, at best only incremental changes that make it less annoying. And maybe only in future model years, not necessarily something that can be implemented in vehicles already in the hands of owners.

100%

 

[[ Adam ]]

On reflecting during the 500 or so miles I've driven since listening to the podcast, it occurred to me that there is a real opportunity for yet another bold move from Ineos. Rather than wasting time interacting directly with the aftermarket scanner tool manufacturers one by one, Ineos should simply open source the pertinent information for global consumption. This will keep Ineos from choosing winners and losers by getting the data to as many scan tool manufacturers as possible. A secondary impact will be that the rabid enthusiast market, both small shops and owner innovators will have the opportunity to ideate and create new software for all Ineos owners.

This could become very powerful if the Workshop Manual content was provided via an open source Creative Commons license - providing the capability for 3rd parties (like us) to build open source, multi-platform software integrating both Parts / Schematics and proprietary OBD2 comms into a single interface.

Ineos could further (via creative commons licensing again) authorize a third party, or community to collaborate on the Field Repair manual I've mentioned before - incorporating @Rok_Dr's manual - which is ALREADY published under a creative commons license. All of this could be assembled and printed via a platform like lulu.com, and sold by Grenadier Works - providing ongoing revenue for the forum @Stu_Barnes.

To summarize :

• Provide open source Creative Commons licensing for Ineos "workshop content"
• Open source OBD2 details for Tire rotation, proprietary codes and service resets
• License Grenadier Works to publish the "Unofficial Ineos Grenadier Field Manual"

please do the needful.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

i doubt Ineos is in position to open source those software. Those software likely have all kinds of dependencies that prevent open sourcing.

Ineos does not own those source code end-to-end.

Heck.. they are not even a software shop. They don’t know the process for open sourcing while mitigating liabilities

 

[[ Adam ]]

i doubt Ineos is in position to open source those software. Those software likely have all kinds of dependencies that prevent open sourcing.

Ineos does not own those source code end-to-end.

They do not need to open source their software - they need to open source the OBD2 details - akin to releasing an API, not the actual source code.

Heck.. they are not even a software shop. They don’t know the process for open sourcing while mitigating liabilities

I know people. Lawyers. The type who've done this before. The type who have worked open source at the Supreme Court level.