Eibach Pro-Lift Kit ~ +30mm coil springs

[Logsplitter]

but from inoes do you have to buy the complete driveshaft or can they supply just the CV joint?

Complete drive shaft as I understand

 

[anand]

but from inoes do you have to buy the complete driveshaft or can they supply just the CV joint?

Entire driveshaft

 

[MJWUK]

I’ve had a look through the comments. Am I right in summarising that 1. It is inconclusive as to whether the Eibach lift leads to front driveshaft problems and 2. It will invalidate warranty (info for the implications in the Uk would be useful)?

 

[Cheshire cat]

I’ve had a look through the comments. Am I right in summarising that 1. It is inconclusive as to whether the Eibach lift leads to front driveshaft problems and 2. It will invalidate warranty (info for the implications in the Uk would be useful)?

Sounds like one to ask your local dealer.
I know that the son of Sir Jim had his Grenadier lifted by a UK company however I’m not sure he will be too concerned over warranty claims.
Looking at the number of owners that have embarked on a lift I’m not convinced it is a major issue. If you do have a problem here in the UK I doubt that Ineos will be there to help, but on the plus side, resulting problems don’t seem to be that expensive to fix.

 

[Commodore]

I’ve had a look through the comments. Am I right in summarising that 1. It is inconclusive as to whether the Eibach lift leads to front driveshaft problems and 2. It will invalidate warranty (info for the implications in the Uk would be useful)?

My front driveshaft was replaced under warranty but only because I’m on stock suspension. The dealer told me that they are denying warranty claim on lifted Grenadiers. Also said that they see a high failure rate of the CV on lifted trucks.

Nothing about the conversation sounds remotely inconclusive.

 

[GN4HIR]

In the US, Ineos is requiring the dealer to report on the suspension setup before they will approve a warranty replacement of the driveshaft. When mine failed, Ineos wanted to know if my vehicle was lifted, what size tires I installed, and did I change the stock shocks. I was on stock springs, 33" tires and stock shocks and after a week of just sitting at the dealer, Ineos approved a warranty replacement. I've heard of inquiries about how much time the vehicle spent off road, which to me seems ridiculous.

My dealer told me they had to keep the old driveshaft in case Ineos wanted it but if they hadn't claimed it in 6 months I could have it back. I was stoked to build a backup; however, after about 60 days my dealer told me Ineos requested the bad shaft be sent back to them.

In the US warranty (and perhaps ROW) there is an implied WARRANTY OF FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE which is somewhat ironic given how they marketed the vehicle as 'Built on Purpose'. My guess is someone will need to press the failing driveshaft issue with NHSTA or some similar regulatory body to get any broad based resolution.

I do love these disclaimers from the US Warranty language:

THE INEOS LIMITED WARRANTIES ONLY COVER DEFECTS IN MATERIALS OR WORKMANSHIP AS DESCRIBED HEREIN. THE INEOS LIMITED WARRANTIES DO NOT COVER DEFECTS IN DESIGN.

The New Vehicle Limited Warranty also does not cover the following: Damage, malfunctions, failures, deterioration, or corrosion caused or resulting from: Misuse, accident, theft, arson or intentional damage; Racing, track days, off-road trials, or other competition or events;

(That last exclusion "events" is so broad you could drive a.. well.. Grenadier through it)

 

[Logsplitter]

I’ve had a look through the comments. Am I right in summarising that 1. It is inconclusive as to whether the Eibach lift leads to front driveshaft problems and 2. It will invalidate warranty (info for the implications in the Uk would be useful)?

As @Cheshire cat said. I would check with your dealer. I seem to remember speaking to an agent who said that making a warranty claim for a failed prop with a lifted Grenadier would be problematic.

 

[Krabby]

The lift thing I get, but tire size doesn't affect the driveline angles, correct?

 

[parb]

I'm sure that everything and anything that can be used to limit liability is fair in the eyes of ineos.

I'm buying an extra rzeppa joint as my car will have the eibach 500lbs springs today and i can't avoid the 1.4" extra lift.

 

[anand]

The lift thing I get, but tire size doesn't affect the driveline angles, correct?

Tires don't alter driveline angles, however, from dealing with other brands in the past, it is an additional clue to the big picture.

If the vehicle has different size tires than stock, then it may be an indication to look more closely into whether or not it once had the shocks replaced, which could mean the axle was drooped down and damaged the boot/joint on the driveshaft or, in the case of lift springs moved the driveshaft boot out of the normal range of motion for at-speed driving. Along the same lines, especially for something like a driveshaft joint failure that is costing a company a lot of money to repair in warranty costs, it's not unheard of for notes to be referenced regarding posts made online about modifications to compare names, or VINs, or photos; especially with a niche and small volume manufacturer.

 

[Cheshire cat]

Larger tyres may also increase torsion values on rotational linkages, I suppose.