Complaining about issues with IG? - it’s not just Ineos…..

[bigleonski]

Here’s an 80,000km review of the 300 Series Landcruiser that’s done a lot of outback touring.

Seriously, when people think Ineos has done a shit job, they should realise we’re doing OK.

No major dramas here, just niggles, (although replacing injectors……) but it rang a bell against a lot of the whinging that goes on here about our buggy.

View: https://youtu.be/BBxh4riybC8?si=qlFcBI6wwkO3-sd1

 

[Tenac]

I don't think it is really about comparing between brands and models. I think its about wanting to insist on higher standards for the one we choose and enjoy.

 

[bigleonski]

I don't think it is really about comparing between brands and models. I think its about wanting to insist on higher standards for the one we choose and enjoy.

Yeah I get it, but when a 70 year plus maker gets the same issues and more not right, it’s hard to dump too hard on the new kid on the block. Maybe it’s a generational thing.

 

[Jeremy996]

Having spent far too long buying cars, working on cars, thinking about cars, working in insurance on cars, worrying about cars and helping others with cars, all of them suck somewhere! It's all a question of where the balance is.

Every manufacturer has a bad time sometime, the Takata airbag disaster affected 34 brands and 67 million vehicles in the USA alone. So far, Ineos Automotive have done OK by me, but that is not to say there are not things that could be done better, (but most are annoyances rather than a disaster). This list is UK centric, but I suspect it will ring a bell around the world.

• The launch software was pants and the 2025 service bug is not great. On the upside, none of it bricked the vehicle for me,
• Water ingress for early build vehicles was an embarrassment. (When your Land Rover owning mates are taking the piss, it has gone too far. My wife thought it was funny as it was dripping on me, the LR110/90 dripped on her!)
• The dealer rollout was poorly handled and the new Super Dealers are not bedded in yet. Should I expect my vehicle to be collected and delivered for service? How long is a suitable wait for technician time?
• The heater took too long to get to barely adequate, I think I, (and the forum), was more use to my service agent than Ineos dealer technical support in the early days.
• Parts supply is nowhere near as slick as it should be, (although the experience in extremis seems to be better than expected). I need an accident repair, (minor, but the BMW looks like it was mauled by a tiger), and the body shop has delayed 3 times now through lack of parts.
• Marketing promises not met; although some of us have a somewhat mangled manual, we don't have a useful diagnostic tool. Sort that and the lack of dealers and general abuse about it not being entirely fit for remote work goes away. It would definitely be a useful USP compared to JLR/Toyota/Jeep/whatever. Keep it cheap and locked to a specific vehicle and even the dealers might see it as an attractive selling tool, (most people don't want to get their hands dirty). A single year DVD manual and a basic reader/write tool locked to a VIN would be a pragmatic solution.
• The front drive shaft failing early - not a big deal for me, but a noisy PR downer on the forum and social media.

 

[TheDocAUS]

There are a few owners who exaggerate the issues or do not even bother to find out about the car, they make mistakes and then blame the car, INEOS or the dealer.

If something is not working, the first place I look at is in the mirror, then the forum.

A small number of owners seem some serious issues with 1 or 2 lemons.

Based on that video Toyota owners are having similar issues with new models.

 

[beefs]

It’s an internet forum thing as well - it gives the whingers an audience, the frustrated a place to vent and the problem solvers somewhere to ask questions about their issues. So it can seem like a whole bunch of non stop negative news.

But in reality there’s a whole bunch of us just lurking, not posting very much, enjoying our rigs and not coming across near as many problems with them as it feels like there is if you just rely on the internet.

 

[TheDocAUS]

It’s an internet forum thing as well - it gives the whingers an audience, the frustrated a place to vent and the problem solvers somewhere to ask questions about their issues. So it can seem like a whole bunch of non stop negative news.

But in reality there’s a whole bunch of us just lurking, not posting very much, enjoying our rigs and not coming across near as many problems with them as it feels like there is if you just rely on the internet.

I add the whingers to my Ignore list. Life is too short. I have enough rehab to do, without adding theirs.

And I do not mind one bit if people add me to their Ignore list, feel free.

 

[beefs]

I add the whingers to my Ignore list. Life is too short. I have enough rehab to do, with adding theirs.

And I do not mind one bit if people add me to their Ignore list, feel free.

I’ve gotta a couple blocked as well

 

[Jeremy996]

I'm a moderator; I cannot in all conscience block whingers! I have to read entries at least once.

 

[Dreadfully Distinct]

I was starting to get pissed off. I thought for sure you were adding a “g” to the word whiners on purpose! I wanted to piss and moan and fuss about it. But then I realized I was wrong…. /s

 

[Dokatd]

Why can't anyone hear me on this thread!?!

 

[DaveB]

Here’s an 80,000km review of the 300 Series Landcruiser that’s done a lot of outback touring.

Seriously, when people think Ineos has done a shit job, they should realise we’re doing OK.

No major dramas here, just niggles, (although replacing injectors……) but it rang a bell against a lot of the whinging that goes on here about our buggy.

View: https://youtu.be/BBxh4riybC8?si=qlFcBI6wwkO3-sd1

I was just looking at where to post this.
You saved me the problem