15% price increase? Bulls**t

[DaveB]

Yep. Certainly looks like energy is the problem and it is expected to remain high
If only they could build them without using electricity or heating.

 

[DaveB]

Or LDV. They make an apparently rugged and cheap 4x4

At the moment in Australia car companies are selling every 4wd/SUV vehicle they can get(or can't even get) for high prices.......except Jeep
Who have stock and have just offered 3 years free servicing to try to get customers.

 

[Tazzieman]

At the moment in Australia car companies are selling every 4wd/SUV vehicle they can get(or can't even get) for high prices.......except Jeep
Who have stock and have just offered 3 years free servicing to try to get customers.

There are 364 MY22 Jeep Gladiators F/S in Australia right now (that's just carsales.com) What does that say?

 

[DaveB]

There are 364 MY22 Jeep Gladiators F/S in Australia right now (that's just carsales.com) What does that say?

I posted the 4WD of the year video somewhere on here a few months ago and the Gladiator performed worse than the Great Wall in some aspects.
Not very good off road at all.
I don't think it would last very long against corrugations, just not designed for it.
It looks pretty good though.

 

[Methos]

I posted the 4WD of the year video somewhere on here a few months ago and the Gladiator performed worse than the Great Wall in some aspects.
Not very good off road at all.
I don't think it would last very long against corrugations, just not designed for it.
It looks pretty good though.

Do you judge all 4WD vehicles based on their stock capability? As Dan Grec has shown, the Gladiator holds up just fine.

 

[DaveB]

Do you judge all 4WD vehicles based on their stock capability? As Dan Grec has shown, the Gladiator holds up just fine.

No that is just an indicator.
When the alternatives are crazy expensive and 6-12 months lead time but people still prefer to buy them rather than a cheaper, ex stock Gladiator with free servicing

 

[DaveB]

Do you judge all 4WD vehicles based on their stock capability? As Dan Grec has shown, the Gladiator holds up just fine.

Hi
I should point out that I am not knocking Jeeps as off road vehicles as they are obviously very good
Just not suited to Australian conditions as an all-round vehicle
Dual cab utes are the best selling vehicle of all types in Australia and as you can see in this comparison the gladiator wins the off-road section

 

[DCPU]

Yep. Certainly looks like energy is the problem and it is expected to remain high
If only they could build them without using electricity or heating.

Is there a suggestion box at the factory?

Get those blokes that swan around Maderia all winter in lycra branded as Ineos Grenadiers back to the factory on these:

 

[Deleted User Account.]

Quite a bit of passive aggresive "smart-assery" on here for legitimate questions and complaints beibg asked by American. Would be nice if those of you would just keep those xenophobic opinions to yourself. Same crap was being put out there in the flag thread.

 

[Trialmaster]

I thought you had decided the Grenadier was no longer on the shopping list?

 

[DCPU]

Quite a bit of passive aggresive "smart-assery" on here for legitimate questions

You're referring to stuff like this then?

I’m not going to spoon feed you you’ll have to learn how to use google like everyone else.

 

[Deleted User Account.]

I thought you had decided the Grenadier was no longer on the shopping list?

Never said that. Just becoming more disenchanted as time goes on. I'll still wait and see if ineos can bring a quality product to market here. If it's reasonably priced and performs as intended, I'll buy and keep. If the price puts it in the arena of a luxury vehicle, I'll probably buy if there is a price incentive and flip it or just cancel if it looks like there's no demand on the secondary.

 

[DCPU]

There are 364 MY22 Jeep Gladiators F/S in Australia right now (that's just carsales.com) What does that say?

"They’ve just announced the fourth round of price rises in 12 months on the Gladiator and Wrangler"

The car so good, Jeep don’t want to sell it

Jeep might just have the ultimate off-roader in their lineup. But they don't seem too interested in selling them

unsealed4x4.com.au

 

[G-Man]

Yep. Certainly looks like energy is the problem and it is expected to remain high
If only they could build them without using electricity or heating.


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I run an Engineering company and in our case most cost increases have been driven by the unstable energy market. Raw materials (steel, aluminium) take a lot of energy to produce and then more energy to heat treat from their initial annealed (soft) state to their final tempered/quenched state. The price hikes in metallic raw materials are proportionate to how much energy is used to produce them, but everything has gone up substantially this year: Carbon steels +50%, stainless steels +100% and exotic nickel alloy steels by as much as 800%. In addition, the demise of the Ukranian steel mills also had a large impact on European supply chains. Couple that with rampant inflation and every single workforce calling for substantial pay rises and it's easy to see where things are heading.

Basically the world is messed up right now and industry is rolling with the punches, but no-one was able to predict the perfect storm we're in. It's unfortunate but I don't blame IG for putting their prices up, it's just business. Unfortunately Ineos have chosen a time to launch a new vehicle in the worst possible climate, where everyone is fighting to survive. I don't envy their task, but if they have truly found a niche in the market then they should be OK: Necessity is the mother of all invention as they say.

 

[ECrider]

Well said G-Man.

Quick question, your location says Aberdeen but your flag says Holland?

 

[G-Man]

Well said G-Man.

Quick question, your location says Aberdeen but your flag says Holland?

Hi ECrider,

I've asked @Stu_Barnes very nicely if that glitch can be fixed! Apparently it's because on the day I first registered my account my laptop was routed through a Dutch IP address

 

[Cheshire cat]

Hi ECrider,

I've asked @Stu_Barnes very nicely if that glitch can be fixed! Apparently it's because on the day I first registered my account my laptop was routed through a Dutch IP address

I have the same issue. Flag is Norwegian as I must have been there when doing something. My flag should be British.

 

[bemax]

I have the same issue. Flag is Norwegian as I must have been there when doing something. My flag should be British.

And I wondered wether both of you might have used local flags that look like the norwegian and dutch one

 

[G-Man]

And I wondered wether both of you might have used local flags that look like the norwegian and dutch one

I was concerned it was a Russian flag at first!

 

[Spjnr]

Do you judge all 4WD vehicles based on their stock capability? As Dan Grec has shown, the Gladiator holds up just fine.

The Gladiator is a good 4x4, but (compared to other ROW offerings) an average at best truck. You'll need to lift and increase tire straight away to make up for the abysmal breakover angle, and doing so further worsens its truck capabilities. Also, the powerplant is terrible for non Americans. We're used to punchy little turbo diesels that can pull 3.5ton at sub 3k rpm, not a thirsty v6 petrol that screams its ass off to pull a trailer up a hill.

Jeep say the 3.0 Ecodiesel wont fit in RHD configuration, yet they can squeeze a 392 in a left hooker no worries? Shorthand for "we wont sell enough to warrant the RnD"

Had my heart set on the gladiator a few years back, as the logical workhorse replacement for my Wrangler, but it never made it to UK shores. Looking back now, I think id have been disappointed in it. A JL Rubicon 2.0 here in the UK lists for £61k now, so a gladiator wouldn't have been sub 70k, especially in diesel form.

I think the Gladiator is at home for the US consumer, who wants to go adventuring on the weekend, maybe some camping etc, but also wants to tow a UTV trailer once in a blue moon. No surprise its flopped in Australia, as it no doubt would have here