Americas Would you buy a Grenadier if the closest dealer was 250 miles away?

[Mike Morrison]

I have one on order -delivery march’25 - and the dealer is 715km (440 miles), 8hr trip one way. A huge leap of faith coming from a Toyota FJ Cruiser with the dealer 20min away!

 

[Tx246]

Yes!

I am at almost 9k miles with no major issues. I Drive it daily.

 

[Baron von Teuchter]

I’m 100 miles away from a sales dealer but only 10 from a service agent. It’s been to the service agent once, for its first service, had no other reason to visit. Nothing has gone wrong or broken.

So from my personal experience I would say yes.

From the reports from others I would say probably not.

Bear in mind that vehicle-specific forums and social media groups often have people reporting the bad stuff and looking to see if others have the same issue. You don’t get thousands of people reporting they have no issues at all. It’s completely natural.

I’ve had several land rovers that have had no reliability issues at all yet common internet knowledge is that they’re dreadful. I had an Audi that was a massive pain in the ass. £5000 bill to replace a £1 seal etc. headlight bulb kept blowing and you needed to remove bumper to change the bulb. Etc etc. Common internet knowledge is that Audis are super reliable.

 

[Vilhelm007]

Yes! Live in NH, no dealers in my state. Just passed 2k miles. Love this awesome utility machine! Recommend professional rust proofing for all New England.

 

[spyder6255]

Yes! Live in NH, no dealers in my state. Just passed 2k miles. Love this awesome utility machine! Recommend professional rust proofing for all New England.

Who does the rust proofing?

 

[parb]

When I bought mine the closest dealer was 600 miles away. I bought mine from a dealer 1,000 miles from me. Now I have a dealer 120 miles away.

I felt okay with my decision at the time and would easily make it again

 

[Vilhelm007]

Who does the rust proofing?

A business in Bow NH, Premier Rustproofing. With lifetime touch ups!

 

[AngusMacG]

A business in Bow NH, Premier Rustproofing. With lifetime touch ups!

Did they strip the wax coating off before applying the rustproofing?

 

[Vilhelm007]

They clean everything and sand blast the area to be rustproofed. Then they spray on the hot rustproofing that does include beeswax. They offer free patches if scraped off for the life of the vehicle!

 

[CrazyOldMan]

They clean everything and sand blast the area to be rustproofed. Then they spray on the hot rustproofing that does include beeswax. They offer free patches if scraped off for the life of the vehicle!

Are you guys sure this does anything beyond the factory wax? It seems like you guys in VT and NH are convinced it does, and that you have some sort of kryptonite version of winter road treatment that the rest of us don’t have. @vtgrenadier and I often argue about the Great Cheese and Maple Syrup war between WI and VT - I would like to add road salt/treatment to the list and just say I think you all are nuts. Additionally, I would like to point out that since you all are tiny pretend states, you have to name your football team for an entire region, whereas most places just name it after a city - or in our case, maybe the city and an inlet of Lake Michigan.

Take that, New England chloride compounds.

 

[cdsvt]

They clean everything and sand blast the area to be rustproofed. Then they spray on the hot rustproofing that does include beeswax. They offer free patches if scraped off for the life of the vehicle!

Seems idiotic to sand blast the powder coating and galvanized surface of the frame down to metal which makes it more prone to corrosion. You can also apply Fluid Film, Woolwax, or NH Oil Undercoating that go over thr top of the OEM protective coatings. We have a local shop that we have apply Fluid Film. It does the job, but has two primary downsides 1) since it is lanolin based the vehicle smells like a sheep barn for a bit and 2) it is messy when you do any work on the underside of the vehicle. The latter may be less of a concern for a new vehicle, but I have a 1994 that I crawl under on a fairly regular basis, and it is messy.

 

[cdsvt]

Are you guys sure this does anything beyond the factory wax? It seems like you guys in VT and NH are convinced it does, and that you have some sort of kryptonite version of winter road treatment that the rest of us don’t have. @vtgrenadier and I often argue about the Great Cheese and Maple Syrup war between WI and VT - I would like to add road salt/treatment to the list and just say I think you all are nuts. Additionally, I would like to point out that since you all are tiny pretend states, you have to name your football team for an entire region, whereas most places just name it after a city - or in our case, maybe the city and an inlet of Lake Michigan.

Take that, New England chloride compounds.

I live in Vermont and the levels of corrosion are incredible. I'm sure lots of other states have the same issue, primarily anywhere you get real snow and ice and use both chloride liquid and road salt.

I never buy used vehicles from here anymore. I would gladly pay to fly and drive or trailer a vehicle from a state that doesn't have the same weather/salt/corrosion issues.

And yes, our cheese and maple syrup are the best in the world. Who cares about sports ball teams anyway?

 

[cdsvt]

I have one on order -delivery march’25 - and the dealer is 715km (440 miles), 8hr trip one way. A huge leap of faith coming from a Toyota FJ Cruiser with the dealer 20min away!

I feel this pain. Land Crusiers instead of FJs, but same otherwise. The Ineos is a leap of faith. If you can live with, modify, or upgrade around the quirks to a tolerable level, you will enjoy the Grenadier. It has a little better rearward visibility than an FJ cruiser though, so that's a big upgrade. And you get SFA instead of IFS, think more land cruiser 80 than FJ cruiser levels of offroad capability. One is good, the other is gooder. lol

 

[Zimm]

I live in Pittsburgh. Well, a river town adjacent to Pittsburgh. Our maint crews have the streets looking like the salt flats Nov to March... It's their seasonal "bonus" overtime, and we have a salt contract so it shows up, snow or not. I also did a stint in management for a manufacturer of high tension fasteners for US Navy craft (big threaded shit that sits in a salt bath)... I would have NEVER stripped a modern factory applied coating to unexposed metal, so I could expose it and apply an aftermarket sprayed on cold surface coating. I can't tell you what exact processes Ineos is using, but just the physical examination looks to me like they didn't f**k around compared to other regular cars, that themselves are lasting 20 years in these conditions.

I just spot hit around threaded bolts, folds, and joined surfaces with fluid film. It works better than the old MGB waxoyl as it self heals. It also has decent capillary action. I also went around with a tread checker, popped off all the caps for unused mounting points and threaded in a button cap bolt with a gob (<-- medieval measurement, the amount of giz a king can fit on his finger in one scoop) of anti seize, and then shot it with a layer of fluid film.