Workshop Manuals available?

[Tazzieman]

I am told it’s called a grooved axle nut or simply hub nut and the inner diameter is 75mm.

Do you mean outer diameter?

 

[Logsplitter]

Do you mean outer diameter?

I’m told outside diameter is 84.74mm and internal diameter is 75mm. I’m hoping to get an actual picture of the tool and confirmation of dimensions at some point this week. But those dimensions are correct I’m reliably informed.

 

[Logsplitter]

Bingo. Here we are

 

[Tazzieman]

Bingo. Here we are
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[TCMColorado]

Bingo. Here we are
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Can an Ineos dealer supply this socket? It would certainly be overpriced but it would eliminate concern about correct fit.

 

[Logsplitter]

Can an Ineos dealer supply this socket? It would certainly be overpriced but it would eliminate concern about correct fit.

I doubt it. There is only one in the U.K. I’m informed and the dealers are passing it around as required
I don’t intend to use the tool myself but I want one in my tool kit for when it’s required in some location around the world, where a local Worksop will almost certainly not have one.

 

[TCMColorado]

I doubt it. There is only one in the U.K. I’m informed and the dealers are passing it around as required

Of course there is only one. How typical of Ineos Automotive.

It is highly unlikely that the nut in questions is specific to the Grenadier axle. It is almost certainly used elsewhere. Given this there is definitely a tool available to fit. The issue is finding it. Why must Ineos make everything so difficult.........

 

[TCMColorado]

I reached out to the parts manager at my dealer to inquire about availability of the tool. I'll follow up with what I hear back. Not expecting to get good news.

 

[Logsplitter]

I still can’t get my head around why you would use such a nut when a normal six side hub nut as in the front axle would work.

 

[ECrider]

Just checking the parts catalogue and why do you think Ineos and or Cararro went for a six sided hub nut on the front axle, which we could probably find a suitable socket for and a six grooved hub nut on the back axle, which requires a specialist tool for ? The specialist tool is going to be a PITA to acquire. Ineos only have one in this country supposedly and I can’t find suitable size online that would match such a nutView attachment 7907655View attachment 7907656

I'm intrigued what the logic is for using one over the other (different hub nuts)

 

[Logsplitter]

I'm intrigued what the logic is for using one over the other (different hub nuts)

So much for making it simple.

 

[ECrider]

So much for making it simple.

maybe they have one of each on either axle

 

[landmannnn]

So much for making it simple.

Guessing they asked Carraro to provide the axles, and that is what they came up with.
My cynical side says Carraro just looked in their parts bins.

 

[MattA]

Surely a normal nut sourced from somewhere else would make a suitable change to get rid of the special tool requirement

 

[Logsplitter]

Surely a normal nut sourced from somewhere else would make a suitable change to get rid of the special tool requirement

Exactly what I thought but apparently these sorts of nuts are used because a normal six sided nut would be just too big for the particular situation that the nut is in. I guess the axle shaft Is bigger on the rear than on the front hence the different hub nut design. . Lots of very large trucks use this type of hub nut.

 

[tnkatoy]

This is available on ebay for 28.05 pounds, should do the job

 

[Logsplitter]

This is available on ebay for 28.05 pounds, should do the job


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Pins need to be on the inside as per earlier post. Hopefully we will find a specific Cararro one at some point

 

[tnkatoy]

Pins need to be on the inside as per earlier post. Hopefully we will find a specific Cararro one at some point

The first one slots over the groove nut with the pins slotting in from the side, the second one sits on the top of the groove nut with the pins slotting in from the top, both work.

 

[TCMColorado]

The first one slots over the groove nut with the pins slotting in from the side, the second one sits on the top of the groove nut with the pins slotting in from the top, both work.

Agreed, both styles will work assuming the dimensions match.

 

[Logsplitter]

The first one slots over the groove nut with the pins slotting in from the side, the second one sits on the top of the groove nut with the pins slotting in from the top, both work.

Great thanks. When I get my vehicle back. It might be worth a punt and purchase one to see if it fits.