Traded the Wagon for a Quartermaster

[Emil]

I'm not 100% certain but the turn radius does seem to be larger than the wagon

Grenadier Station Wagon (pre‑2026): ~13.5 m turning circle / 2026: ~5 % tighter turning circle ~12.8 m.

Quartermaster Pickup (pre‑2026): ~14.5 m turning circle / 2026: ~5 % tighter turning circle ~13.8 m

 

[DezRoamer]

Can anyone confirm that the Koni Raid shocks that fit the Wagon will also fit up to the Quartermaster.
The reason I ask is because the QuarterMaster seems to have a slight "Jitter" when hitting bumps/road imperfections that the Wagon doesn't.
I've driven a Quartermaster with a Dirtbox canopy/RTT on it and the jitter was still slightly noticeable.
At this time I don't have any intention on Lifting the truck, Just trying to maximize off pavement ride quality with a larger body shock.

 

[ADVAW8S]

I am using the Radflo shocks and they are standard length. They are universal and have been extremely happy with them.

 

[DezRoamer]

I am using the Radflo shocks and they are standard length. They are universal and have been extremely happy with them.

Do you think they provide an overall better ride over all road surfaces?

 

[ADVAW8S]

Thisy are adjustable so you can dial them in to your driving. I love them and ride has been fantastic on and off road.

 

[Uplander]

I was really tempted to get the Quarternaster but in the end I bought a Trailmaster as I already have a a Rubicon Gladiator and they are pretty comparable spec wise. So I kept the Glad and am
Getting rid of my 2005 F-250 crew cab diesel since I no longer need to tow a 30’ gooseneck or large loaded gay wagon’s anymore.

When the Gladiator nears end of life. I’d be looking at a quartermaster.

Just curious, I was able to go to 35” tires with the Gladiator on a stock suspension with no rubbing at all but they designed it that way with higher fenders and deeper wells. Would like to hear if you can do the same with the Quartermaster.

 

[TCMColorado]

I was really tempted to get the Quarternaster but in the end I bought a Trailmaster as I already have a a Rubicon Gladiator and they are pretty comparable spec wise. So I kept the Glad and am
Getting rid of my 2005 F-250 crew cab diesel since I no longer need to tow a 30’ gooseneck or large loaded gay wagon’s anymore.

When the Gladiator nears end of life. I’d be looking at a quartermaster.

Just curious, I was able to go to 35” tires with the Gladiator on a stock suspension with no rubbing at all but they designed it that way with higher fenders and deeper wells. Would like to hear if you can do the same with the Quartermaster.

If you choose a narrow 35 and keep the wheel offset close to the factory spec of 55mm then 35" tires fit without rubbing. The Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT in 255/85R17 and the Toyo RT Trail in 35x10.5 or 35x11.5 are the best narrow options for 35s.

 

[DezRoamer]

I was really tempted to get the Quarternaster but in the end I bought a Trailmaster as I already have a a Rubicon Gladiator and they are pretty comparable spec wise. So I kept the Glad and am
Getting rid of my 2005 F-250 crew cab diesel since I no longer need to tow a 30’ gooseneck or large loaded gay wagon’s anymore.

When the Gladiator nears end of life. I’d be looking at a quartermaster.

Just curious, I was able to go to 35” tires with the Gladiator on a stock suspension with no rubbing at all but they designed it that way with higher fenders and deeper wells. Would like to hear if you can do the same with the Quartermaster.

I have heard from a few people that when they fitted 35's wether lifted or not they saw some definite power loss with factory gearing.
I've went down that rabbit hole on previous builds and living at higher elevations I'm sticking with tires in the 33" range.
Maybe at sea level power loss wouldn't be an issue.
From my research I'd agree with TCMColorado.

 

[DezRoamer]

Some changes are taking place with the Build.
REDARC Electrics and Canopy/Topper from Dirtbox were the main focus. Moving the spare tire and building out a deck with pull out drawer was important.
I tapped the secondary fuse block to power the Manager 30, and there were factory openings in the cab and bed to allow wiring without any drilling.
The Topper is robust and made of extruded aluminum. With so many access points to allow molle panels and places to bolt kit to. Making a strong and sturdy bulkhead to fix the REDARC kit and switchs to was pretty straight forward.
After the Canopy was fitted I'm find some success in sealing the massive opening between the tailgate and bed. Only after a good dusty shakedown run will I know if my attempt proves worthy.
More details coming soon.

 

[Tom109]

I have heard from a few people that when they fitted 35's wether lifted or not they saw some definite power loss with factory gearing.
I've went down that rabbit hole on previous builds and living at higher elevations I'm sticking with tires in the 33" range.
Maybe at sea level power loss wouldn't be an issue.
From my research I'd agree with TCMColorado.

Coming from my IIa 109 and RRC, the Gren has no shortage of power! While there will certainly be a loss, I would categorize it a slight. I also don’t climb the Great Divide.