The steering pump whine is officially a issue…

[MattA]

When they say it’s “ normal “ what they actually mean is that,
most are not filled and bled from factory so as soon as they are started and driven it starts to damage the pump, then the owner drives it and damages the pump more.
At that point damage and noise is normal

 

[IslandFalconer]

When they say it’s “ normal “ what they actually mean is that,
most are not filled and bled from factory so as soon as they are started and driven it starts to damage the pump, then the owner drives it and damages the pump more.
At that point damage and noise is normal

Mines been over full since day one to the point it leaked. So that’s not accurate at all.

 

[FlyingTexan]

Well I went and purchased CHF 202 instead of the CHF 11s. But my reservoir barely needed any. BTW the CHF 202 is fully interchangeable with the 11S and is the newer spec. They've been saying online the 11S is being phased out and the 202 was created to help with pump whine. But I needed so little don't think it will make a diff.

 

[FlyingTexan]

When they say it’s “ normal “ what they actually mean is that,
most are not filled and bled from factory so as soon as they are started and driven it starts to damage the pump, then the owner drives it and damages the pump more.
At that point damage and noise is normal

Mine was basically full. How do you know if it's been bled or not?

 

[S52]

My pump has a pretty noticeable whine since new (May 2024 build date). At around 1000 miles I checked the reservoir and it was low (like below the dipstick level low)

I bought a can of CHF 11S and used a turkey baster to pump out the reservoir and refilled to the proper level with fresh fluid, ran the steering lock to lock multiple times to try and bleed it out. It's my understanding that it is a self bleeding pump- don't believe theres a bleeder screw- simply running the steering lock to lock multiple times and topping off the reservoir should take care of that.

Now it is showing at proper level but the whine never went away.

It sucks I wonder if it was under filled from the factory, damaged the pump and now I'm stuck with a noisy pump.

 

[Dlucky]

My pump has a pretty noticeable whine since new (May 2024 build date). At around 1000 miles I checked the reservoir and it was low (like below the dipstick level low)

I bought a can of CHF 11S and used a turkey baster to pump out the reservoir and refilled to the proper level with fresh fluid, ran the steering lock to lock multiple times to try and bleed it out. It's my understanding that it is a self bleeding pump- don't believe theres a bleeder screw- simply running the steering lock to lock multiple times and topping off the reservoir should take care of that.

Now it is showing at proper level but the whine never went away.

It sucks I wonder if it was under filled from the factory, damaged the pump and now I'm stuck with a noisy pump.

Seems like we all may be in the same situation. Hopefully a recall will be in the
Very near future for this part

 

[FlyingTexan]

I’m a little new to the party but has anyone submitting info to see if this is an issue or not?

 

[mcdoogs]

I’m a little new to the party but has anyone submitting info to see if this is an issue or not?

It depends. To dealers and Ineos, it's not an issue. For owners who don't want their car to sound like a beat down 2013 Altima, its an issue

 

[FlyingTexan]

It depends. To dealers and Ineos, it's not an issue. For owners who don't want their car to sound like a beat down 2013 Altima, its an issue

Is the whine an actual issue? Like a heads up to a failed component? I feel mine has been getting less with time. Might switch my fluid over to CHF 202 which was to help with that.

 

[mcdoogs]

Is the whine an actual issue? Like a heads up to a failed component? I feel mine has been getting less with time. Might switch my fluid over to CHF 202 which was to help with that.

Imo extremely unpleasant sounds at low speed like when offroading with your windows down and spotters around is an actual issue yeah. It's probably not a 'component failure' issue (although the whine does suggest hydraulic fluid is being put under quite a bit of pressure, no idea how that will play out over time) but it is an issue.

 

[Zimm]

I get the same BS from my dealership. They are doing a great job of trying to normalize this issue. Likely trying to escape from a recall.

Like the other issues. My 3 to 2 downshift clunk is normal. :/

 

[MattA]

Absolutely it’s an issue, a noisy power steering pump is a sign of low fluid and / or excessive wear in the pump

 

[FlyingTexan]

Imo extremely unpleasant sounds at low speed like when offroading with your windows down and spotters around is an actual issue yeah. It's probably not a 'component failure' issue (although the whine does suggest hydraulic fluid is being put under quite a bit of pressure, no idea how that will play out over time) but it is an issue.

And that’s a fair thought but I’m coming from a safety and reliability standpoint of losing my steering going 75mph

 

[Dawid Potgieter]

Same,
“It’s normal”
“They all do it”
“No problem found”

Strange my loaner was silent?
“That’s unusual”

That is my dealership's response to just about every issue on my Grenadier. That and "it's just the software".

 

[HereinDaRockies]

When they say it’s “ normal “ what they actually mean is that,
most are not filled and bled from factory so as soon as they are started and driven it starts to damage the pump, then the owner drives it and damages the pump more.
At that point damage and noise is normal

Nah.. my ps has within-spec fluid level

 

[MattA]

Nah.. my ps has within-spec fluid level

What’s your point?
Is your PS excessively noisy?
If it is was it half empty when driven off the production line, around the holding yards, on and off boats and trucks?
Was it filled by the dealer just before hand over with damage already done?
Are you just a lucky owner with it filled properly and still noisy or are you very lucky and have no noise like a normal new vehicle?

 

[Dlucky]

What’s your point?
Is your PS excessively noisy?
If it is was it half empty when driven off the production line, around the holding yards, on and off boats and trucks?
Was it filled by the dealer just before hand over with damage already done?
Are you just a lucky owner with it filled properly and still noisy or are you very lucky and have no noise like a normal new vehicle?

Do tell. Mine is coming in at 80 plus decibels. Which seems like at least 60 decibels to loud.

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Do tell. Mine is coming in at 80 plus decibels. Which seems like at least 60 decibels to loud.

80 db like literally? As measured from what location?

 

[Dlucky]

80 db like literally? As measured from what location?

Measured from 2 feet from the front right side of the truck, hood closed. Yep , 80 db like literally

 

[HereinDaRockies]

Measured from 2 feet from the front right side of the truck, hood closed. Yep , 80 db like literally

Ineos has no fking shame.

You should just replace it.. a random sampling of a new PS pump is likely no worse than what you have