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Europe Technical and Maintenance manuals

When will we have access to the 'before launch' "promised" maintenance and technical manuals?
Some of us are already owners since more than two years, and no access at all!
Lynn had previously indicated there were about to release in a limited way but have since seem nothing
 
Patience grasshopper. Interview ran nearly three hours. Lots to sort through and edit but all will be shared.
I have all the patience in the world because I haven’t bought an grenadier yet, my position and attitude would be vastly different if I had bought on the initial promises and hype
Grasshopper will patiently sit , wait and watch like a wise old man but more like Yoda than Grasshopper
 
I think @Jean Mercier is correct - it will be in the podcast but they’re editing it since it was a 3 hour interview. This has better be good, @Stu_Barnes. You can’t just drop those kinds of teasers and then it is a bunch of corporate nonsense. Like “angels we have heard on high” good, or @Jean Mercier goes full-on Terminator mode. Nobody wants to see that.
 
Like it was answered in the call with Tom months ago but it sounds like it’s already been stated here at some stage not something that is coming
I hope we are wrong, but I am not very optimistic: promised, new promises and promises and promises, but nothing. And the system exists, most of us have seen bribes of the technical manuals, and they look good, but only the official dealers have access.
 
Long time Toyota guy, dipping my toe in with a Grenadier (delivered Friday). Access to the factory service manual, parts fiches, and dealer parts network at reasonable prices keeps us Toyota guys happy over decades. Please make the Grenadier experience as good or better, that's how you'll win us over. Holding on to my Land Cruisers until I see which way this turns out...
 
Long time Toyota guy, dipping my toe in with a Grenadier (delivered Friday). Access to the factory service manual, parts fiches, and dealer parts network at reasonable prices keeps us Toyota guys happy over decades. Please make the Grenadier experience as good or better, that's how you'll win us over. Holding on to my Land Cruisers until I see which way this turns out...
A basic easily printable line drawing b&w pdf version that takes up less data would be a nice feature as part of the online 3D interactive version that has been shown.
 
Personally I think STU et al have been misled, I believe IA have no intention of releasing the full workshop manuals to owners despite this being a documented commitment and a major reason I bought one!
Sorry Jean, I just don’t see it happening, I’ll just have to wait for the bootleg copies to surface like VAGCOM and MB Star.. etc
 
What do people want to see in the owner version of workshop manuals?
Ineos asking this could be more helpful in making a publicly available workshop manual.
As DIYers there is going to be irrelevant information in the manuals and specialised jobs and that most people and some workshops won't be equipped to do.
Maybe a poll is required to give Ineos some direction for what people want in the manuals.
 
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I have yet to find a job in a Toyota Factory Service Manual that I can't tackle, but I have a well equipped shop and four decades of tool accumulation as a do it yourself shade tree mechanic.
 
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