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Can we enable the forum on Tapatalk? Much easier on a mobile native interface. Plus many folks follow other forums there as well. So it’s a good place to aggregate
 

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Agree. Hopefully in the future! I think I saw Stu mention that we are trying to run this lean until we grow. ?
 

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Absolutely. I would love for this to be on the roadmap. Walk Crawl Run ?
 

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It all comes down to a numbers game, if there is enough of a community here then I can press for it from the software developers if not then it will be similar to a diesel Grenadier in North America, wanted but not quite doable.
 

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Haha true dat. Maybe I'll start a vote thread to see how many people like and want this forum on Tapatalk.  Ironically two of the other key forums (ih8mud and clubg) which I frequent arent on Tapatalk either. So maybe there isnt as much demand
 

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Is it GDPR compliant?
 

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The first link is from 2018 and doesn't tell much. The second one takes over thirty opt-outs of cookies.
And I haven't found any GDPR compliance evidence there.

And here's what they collect (to make a long story short: I don't trust them at all):

INFORMATION WE COLLECT We collect information to better provide the Services to our users -  from tailoring your experience with the Application and Websites such as showing you content we think you might be interested in, making recommendations of Sites to follow, to advertising, measuring advertising performance, and related research.   We may collect and combine information when you interact with the Service, including: Information you give us.  We collect the information that you voluntarily give us.  For example, when you register for a Tapatalk ID, we ask for your email address, user name, birthdate and password, and may request other registration information required by a Site to register as a member. 
  • Information from your use of the Service.  We collect information about how you use a Website and Application like which Sites or Users you follow, and the content you view.  This information includes:
 
  • Device information:  such as your IP address and an anonymous device identifier.  In addition, the Application collects certain information automatically, such as content viewed, and information that allows us to periodically determine mobile device and usage information, which may include (i) information about the way you use the Application, (ii) information specific to your mobile device (such as make, model, operating system and version, Internet browser, device IP address, cookies, anonymous device and/or advertising identifier and similar information), (iii) information about your use of features, functions, or notifications on the device, and (iv) signal strength relating to WiFi or Bluetooth functionality, temperature, battery level, and similar technical data.  We may collect the foregoing information even if you are not logged in to the Application;
 
  • Browser information:  such as information automatically provided by browsers like user agent and IP addresses accessing a Website; and
 
  • Location information:  for users outside the European Economic Area, such as information that allows us to periodically determine your actual location. We may collect the foregoing information even if you are not logged in to the Application.  For iOS users, you should be able to adjust the settings on your iOS device to prevent collection of location information by disabling the location services feature on your device.  For Android users, you should be able to adjust your settings on your Android device to prevent collection of location information by disabling Bluetooth and location service features on your device.
 
  • Information from others: If you use Facebook or Google + to log in to the Application or a Website, we collect your email address and profile picture. These services will authenticate your identity and provide you the option to share (or not share) certain information with us to create a Tapatalk ID.  Services like Facebook give you the option to post information about your activities using the Service to your Facebook profile page to share with others within your Facebook network.  
 We do not any “sensitive” or “special categories of personal data” as defined under European data protection laws.   HOW WE COLLECT USER INFORMATION We use cookies and other standard web technologies to collect information automatically from your device, including: 
  • Cookies and other identifiers:  Cookies are data files that often include a unique identifier, and are placed on a user’s device or computer. We use cookies to deliver content and/or advertising specific to your interests, to enable you to log in to the Service without having to reenter all of your information, and for Service analytics. In addition, we may use third party companies to display ads on the Websites or Application, and these ads may contain cookies. You can learn more about how to delete, decline, or control cookies at www.aboutcookies.org, and can also control cookies by clicking your profile settings for the Website. If you choose to delete or decline cookies, certain features of the Service may not function properly or not at all. In addition, we may use IdentityLink (IDL) from LiveRamp to create a unique identifier to deliver advertising specific to your interests.  The IDL is an encrypted envelope and is stored as a first-party cookie. Your privacy is protected because PII never leaves the page and is not directly shared with LiveRamp. You can learn more about IdentiyLink and opt-out at LiveRamp.
 
  • Web beacon; tags; pixels:  are blocks of code that can read and place cookies, recognize certain types of information on your device, such as which websites or apps you use, and your browsing behavior, as well as provide Service analytics; and
 
  • Mobile device identifiers:  are standard device identifiers, for example the “IDFA” advertising identifier used on Apple’s iOS devices and the “Google Advertising ID” advertising identifier used on Android devices, to analyze your use of mobile applications.
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  • Advertisers:  We share information collected with advertisers and other third parties, including business partners such as advertising businesses who are obligated to comply with applicable laws concerning usage of the information, as well as our corporate affiliates, in connection with the Service (such third parties and affiliates collectively, “Affiliates”).  In addition, our Affiliates may share this information with their own third-party business partners who may use the information either for themselves or on behalf of the applicable Affiliate, each only for the purposes set forth in the section above headed “How We Use Information Collected”;
 
  • Service providers:  We share information collected with our service providers to facilitate some aspects of the Service or perform functions on our behalf.  These service providers may use information about you solely for the purpose of providing these services to us or on our behalf;
 
  • Sites you choose to follow:  We share your name, username, and email with the Site(s) you choose to follow so that you become a member of that Site;
 
  • Legal and other purposes:  We may share information collected with law enforcement, regulatory authorities, courts with competent jurisdiction, emergency services, or other necessary third parties for legal, protection, security, and safety purposes;
 
  • Business transfers:  We may share information collected in connection with the sale or transfer of all or a part of our business or assets to a third party buyer.
  INFORMATION OUR VENDORS AND OTHER THIRD PARTIES COLLECT  
  • Analytics Service Providers
 
  • We may allow certain third party analytics service providers to collect the anonymous data received from cookies, web beacons, tags, pixels, and devices on our behalf, and to retain and use this data themselves.  In addition, we may allow these service providers to include web beacons within the pages of the Websites and anonymous identifiers on the Application. We may also share portions of our log file data, including IP addresses, with these service providers for analytics purposes. These service providers aggregate information about what you see and interact with on the Websites and on the Application.
 
  • These service providers offer information about their data collection practices, and in some cases, an opt-out, on their respective websites. To obtain a list of these service providers in order to request their privacy policy information and learn about the controls that may be available to you, please contact us using the details in the “Contact Information” section below.
 
  • Advertisements; Ad Networks; Other Third Parties
 
  • We may allow certain third party companies to serve advertisements to you and collect anonymous information regarding your use of the Service.  Typically, these companies are third party ad servers, ad agencies, technology vendors, providers of sponsored content, and research firms, and they may include cookies and web beacons within the Websites, or other tracking methodologies such as anonymous device identifiers on the Websites, directly in emails/communications, and/or within the Application to collect anonymous information in order to provide customized content and/or ads of interest, auditing, research and reporting for us, our partners, and advertisers when you visit certain pages of the Websites or Application, and other websites or applications. For example, because your web browser requests these advertisements and/or web beacons from the third-party’s web servers, these companies can view, edit or set their own cookies, just as if you had requested a webpage from their website directly.  When you view or interact with an advertisement, the possibility exists that these companies will make the assumption that you are interested in the subject matter of the advertisements.
 
  • In addition, we or our data partner(s) may collect and store a unique identifier matched to your mobile device, in order to deliver customized ads or content while you use the Service or other websites or applications, or to seek to identify you in a unique manner across other devices or browsers.  In order to customize these ads or content, we or our data partner(s) may connect de-identified demographic or other data about you (received from third parties) either to data you voluntarily submitted to us (such as your email address), or to data automatically collected from you (such as your device identifier or IP address).  However, we will only share your email address with our data partners in hashed, non-human readable form.
 
  • When you use our website, we share information that we may collect from you, such as your email (in hashed, de-identified form), IP address or information about your browser or operating system, with our partner, LiveRamp Inc and its group companies (‘LiveRamp’). LiveRamp may drop a cookie on your browser or directly in our emails and match your shared information to their on- and offline marketing databases and those of its advertising partners to create a link between your browser and information in those other databases. Similarly, when you use our mobile apps, we may also share hashed and de-identified email addresses, mobile device ID, location data, and advertising identifiers with LiveRamp, which uses that information to create a link between your mobile device and its databases. This link may be shared by our partners globally for the purpose of enabling interest-based content or advertising throughout your online experience (e.g. cross device, web, email and in app etc.) by third parties unaffiliated with our website. These third parties may in turn link further demographic or interest-based information to your browser. You have the right to exercise your rights under GDPR including opting out of LiveRamp’s Cookie or Mobile Identifiers and can easily do so by clicking on this link: https://your-rights.liveramp.uk/home
 
  • The above third party companies offer information about their data collection practices, and in some cases, an opt-out of interest-based advertising (ads targeted to your interests), on their respective websites. To obtain a list of these third parties in order to request their privacy policy information and learn about the controls that may be available to you, please contact us using the details in the “Contact Information” section below. You can also learn more about ad serving companies and opt-out capabilities at the Network Advertising Initiative Website, Digital Advertising Alliance Website, Digital Advertising Alliance of Canada, or European Interactive Advertising Digital Alliance. Please note that these opt-outs operate by placing a cookie or identifier on your device that is unique to the browser and device you used to opt-out. They may not function properly if you configured your browser to reject certain cookies. If you change browsers or computers, or delete the cookies on your computer, you will need to opt-out again. You also may be able to set your browser to notify you when a cookie is being set and to block most cookies.  Your mobile device may give you the ability to opt-out of interest-based advertising (“Limit Ad Tracking” on iOS devices or “Opt out of Interest-Based Ads” or “Opt out of Ads Personalization” on Android devices).
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The third party providing the Widget may offer controls for you to manage the Widget’s appearance and functionality. Your interaction with a Widget typically allows the third party to collect some information about you through the third party’s cookies or its registration information. In some cases, the third party may recognize you through its Widgets and cookies even when you do not interact with the Widget. 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Where we rely on our legitimate interests to collect and process information about you, they include the interests described in the section above headed “How We Use the Information Collected”. However, in some cases, we may rely on your consent or have a legal obligation to collect the information about you, or may otherwise need the information to protect your and/or our vital interests or those of another person or entity. 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  • request rectification or erasure of such information;
 
  • restrict the processing of such information;
 
  • if applicable, data portability.  
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We will also delete your posting and images tied to your username. 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The cookies we set expire no later than 30 days after they were last accessed. We typically store the information collected, such as IP address and other information described above until the next login. When we no longer need the information collected, it is deleted from either the cookies or our servers (as applicable). In some cases, we may keep some information for longer periods of time where required under certain laws or to comply with law enforcement or regulatory requests, which for example may include, those relating to corporate governance, taxation, money laundering and financial reporting legislation.  
 

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You know you are getting old when you have no idea what this is all about!!
 

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DaveB said:
You know you are getting old when you have no idea what this is all about!!
Same here...
What are actually the plus for the "Forum" and/or forum Members getting to move it to the Tapatalk? 
 

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[QUOTE username=Red pepper userid=8373838 postid=1332172419]
Same here...
What are actually the plus for the "Forum" and/or forum Members getting to move it to the Tapatalk? [/QUOTE]
WTF is Tapatalk??? I have Facebook, Whatsapp , messenger & Teams. 
 

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emax said:
I am old.
I am only 59 so not old yet.
Although
30 years ago I thought 59 was old
40 years ago I thought 59 was ancient
50 years ago I thought it was the age of the deceased at the funeral

Now I am buying a car that I hope will last me for the next 15-20 years 
 

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> Now I am buying a car that I hope will last me for the next 15-20 years 

?
 

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DaveB said:
I am only 59 so not old yet.
Although
30 years ago I thought 59 was old
40 years ago I thought 59 was ancient
50 years ago I thought it was the age of the deceased at the funeral

Now I am buying a car that I hope will last me for the next 15-20 years 

As I also have the big birthday this year I will require a Big Boy's toy to play with over the next 15-20 years ...and maybe more ?
 

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Count me in for Tapatalk!

For the uninitiated, Tapatalk is an app that displays all your various forums in one feed. You can enter each individually and still engage as you do with the forum online, but there are sections, such as the main screen, that integrate everything into one scrolling feed. You can subscribe to feeds within your forums and receive notifications about activity, replies, new posts, so on. It’s a handy tool. Not every forum is available through it, though many are. 
 

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Taptalk is a forum aggregator that helps you get a standardized format to consume forum content across multiple forums that you might browse. As someone who uses a lot of forums across multiple hobbies and interests, its been a very handy tool for me

@emax The GDPR compliance was adopted in 2016 and enacted in 2018 so maybe thats why the article is from that far back. As to the point about data collection..I am not an expert but I believe GDPR enables individuals to have have the right to manage and delete the data. However, companies can still collect data as long as they clearly state without confusing language and give an option to opt out.

However, I do know that between GDPR and third party cookie dying, companies are very much restricted on stealing customer information unless explicitly given by the customer. Yes, if you dont explicitly refuse, Tapatalk (or for that matter any site) can use your personal details to make money.

I found this link helpful (cant attest to whether its the most 100% accurate) :  https://www.osano.com/articles/gdpr-compliance-regulations

3. GDPR Compliance Requires You to Respect Users Have 8 Basic Rights Regarding Personal Data and Data PrivacyThe General Data Protection Regulation establishes eight rights that apply to all users. Your organization is obligated to respect these rights or face the severe penalties we discussed above.
  1. The right to access. Individuals may request access to their personal data. They may also ask about how their data is used, processed, stored, or transferred to other organizations. You must provide an electronic copy of the personal data, free of charge if requested.
  2. The right to be informed. Individuals must be informed and give free consent (not implied) before gathering and processing their data.
  3. The right to data portability. Individuals may transfer their data from one service provider to another at any time. The transfer must happen in a commonly used and machine-readable format.
  4. The right to be forgotten. If users are no longer customers or withdraw their consent to use their personal data, they have the right to have their data deleted.
  5. The right to object. If a user objects to your use or processing of their data, they can request that you stop. There are no exceptions to this rule. All processing must stop as soon as the user makes their request.
  6. The right to restrict processing. Individuals can ask you to stop processing their data or stop a certain kind of processing. Their data can remain in place if they choose.
  7. The right to be notified. Individuals have the right to be notified in the event of a personal data breach that compromises their personal data. This must happen within 72 hours of your first learning of the breach.
  8. The right to rectification. Users can request that you update, complete, or correct their personal data.
As you can see, these rights give individuals considerable power over their data. They now have a number of tools to limit and prohibit you from using their personal information.
 

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The GDPR is a mess of about 78 pages. I don't like this concoction.

In german forums, it's an often seen discussion even between lawers. Even they can not exactly say if something is GDPR compliant or not. And that's why you will likely not find a clear "we are GDPR compliant" claim from Tapatalk.

In any case, the GDPR compliance question is for those which run a forum an evil trap. The penalties are high and can in the worst case reach 20 million Euros (not kidding).  If I would run a forum, I would never run the risk to install a Tapatalk plugin. It is a European shit, and they spend much effort on being an "authority" and enforcing their penalties.

But I don't care, it's not my responsibility.

However, what really had pissed me off in the past, were forums with Tapatalk support *) nagging me with an intrusive pop-up to install Tapatalk every single time when I entered the forum - regardless whether or not I was a registered user or I was logged in or not . This was even worse on mobile devices as the pop-ups were not easy to close.

If this forum here installs Tapatalk with an opt-in setting in the personal user settings, I don't care. If I don't see it ever (even if not logged in), I don't give it a shit.

But I am afraid, you have to have cookies active in your browser. For theineosform.com I have allowed persistent cookies. But never ever for any Tapatalk domain!

So my expectation is: If Tapatalk, then place an opt-in setting in the user profile to activate it or not. Others should never be nagged or bullied with "Install Tapatalk!" pop-ups and banners, even if they are not logged in. I do not always log in if I just want to have a short overview whats going on - especially (but not only) from my mobile phone.

BTW: I am not picky about convenience-software even though I am a software professional. I am picky, because I am a software professional. There is no free lunch: Convenience always comes at a price.


*) in Europe, they all have chucked out Tapatalk when the GDPR became effective. Guess why.
 
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